Secret Teaser to air during "Lost" Finale
May 24, 2010 in Sookie & Eric, True Blood, video
I’m not sure if this hidden clip is going to end up on YouTube, or in some form that I will be able to post here…we’ll have to wait and see.
As usual, I will try to get it posted up as soon as I can.
I have to say you guys, I’m really not excited about this. I’m trying not to get too overwrought until I see it, but I hardly recognise this character as Eric any more.
I really, really hope there is something in here that proves me wrong.
UPDATE: There’s not.
Source: AlexSkarsgardORG
It’s already aired, but the site you have to go to upload the picture of the cod keeps crashing. Grrrrrr! I’m going to lose my mind!
With all of the jumping through hoops they seem to be making everyone do, maybe they just want to test how badly everyone wants a look at the hot Viking lol
No smart phone here so I hope you can get your hands on the clip
I’m not sure how to feel about the clip with all the convo happening on the yummy Viking pic.. I want to love it but don’t want to get my hopes up on expecting anything.
I still can’t get the page where you upload the code to load. I’m getting REALLY REALLY frustrated!!!
wait, it showed already during Lost? let me know because I’ll look for it now and try…did it just show it?
Kathy, it aired on the network that is showing lost already? Don’t worry, Dee is recording it and she will get the url for us so that we can watch it.
Yes, it aird about 8:45. It was embedded in a new promo. But I can’t get the damn web page to load, so I haven’t been able to upload the code. STUPID! They should have had a lot of servers on this one. Did they think no one was going to do it?
you know what ill check whats been dvr’d so far, grrrr why’d they say 11:15 and show it over an hour early, i would’ve just kept it on lost
Don’t know, but I was fast forwarding through the commercials, saw the promo as I was flashing buy and the code flash. So I stopped and took a picture. Does no good. Still can’t get the first web page to come up.
was it a TB trailer or just the pic? bc i just looked and can’t see it…unless it went by that quick which means it was up for a sec
so it was already aired….??
God they said 11.15!!!!!grrrr!!!!
Ok i am real confused. I went through all of Lost I have recorded so far and didn’t see anything. Did I FF too fast and didn’t see it? I doubt it though, when was it?
I’m on Facebook True Blood’s Page right now…they said they can’t get the video becouse of some server problem and will be fix it soon!!!!
now i am so confused. It wasn’t a trailer bc i would’ve noticed a trailer…so it was just the pic they put up? if i know what im looking for it will be easier…i might have to go back and just FF on FF1 not FF2, this way its easier to catch
Don’t know…i’m confused too…but many people get the code but when they put in on the official site to watch the clip it doesn’t work….
they are having problems…..
It aired on the fist “Lost” thing. Where all the actors and writers are talking about “Lost.” It was on from 7-9. It aired about 8:45. People must have caught it, since I can’t get the site to load. Maybe they’ll air it again at 11:15. I decided to DVR the whole thing since I never got past the fist episode of Lost, hoping the first two hours would explain it enough for me to understand the last 2 1/2! LOL!
FUCK thats why then, i didn’t record the 7-9 one…I thought it was more than enough to do 9-11:30 when they said 11:15…damn it…i had a feeling i should’ve just done the whole thing…thanks
FINALLY they say something! Boy, HBO needs a new marketing/ad agency. So far everything for this season sucks (and I ain’t trying to be funny!)
What True Blood page said they were having problems w/video? They’re having problems with the sweepstakes again apparently.
yeah sorry…i just realized they were talking about that!!!!
Kathy-you said the site where you upload the pic is having problems right? hmmm i wonder if you post the pic of the code on here, if i use the code reader app if that will work bc that is supposed to bring you right to the clip…maybe that site is fine?
How do I upload it here?
Code:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/105007354.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1274669389&Signature=njLgI1vVZZHU%2BFibCvgdJI4qqPw%3D
i guess using imageshak or tinypic is fine….am i wrong?
just posting the link with the immage of the coede.
yeah as long as i can see it I guess
http://hbo.plushms.mobi/TB/clip_desktop.shtml
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOLY. FUCKING. SHIT.
Holy crap! “even if I want what is his.”!!
DITTO………..
Thanks so much for posting a link to the clip!
WOW… thank you Liz!!!! I agree with Dee, you fucking rock! mmmmm lots of True Blood tonight.. and I’m going to stop now before I start fangirling horribly..
well that wasnt so scary now! no grotesque buckets of filth
Thank you for posting it Liz!!
OMG!!!!! That was really great
….even though I do want what is his 
even though i do want to see what is his, ummm a bit lower please
OMG Eric was sooo funny and great!!!!!!
I guess we missed the part where she saw him and Yvetta…becouse he mentioned her so of course when sookie run downstairs he was wiht her!!!
LOL
Whoa ho ho. Thanks! I still can’t get the damn first site to come up.
LOL! Just exactly what I thought it would be! Love the Bill comment! Tee hee! BL’s are going to lose their minds!
I like it!
But what’s weird is I got a different promo on my iphone. It seems there are different versions? I got sent to http://hbo.plushms.mobi/TB/trailer_iphone.shtml
that one is a different one, its a mix of almost everything, the other promos and the basement one.. i think there might some new stuff there too.
nvm. there’s a slightly different version of the season 3 trailer to the one that SVB posted earlier, and there’s also the clip in the DOD.
i guess that wasn’t an arm in the background afterall…?
No it is different… there is Tara running in a white dress, and the magister says “Trouble abounds in your fair state.” Bud and Andy get a line, “Every time we solve one murder two more show up.”
And we get to hear Sookie scream Bill while running from the restaurant. lol BEEEEHl.
That’s the promo that ran during Lost that had the code in it.
There’s too many promos to go round now.
Sookie running in the woods in her Merlotte uniform and somebody chasing her hhhmmmm
It looks like she was hiding from Terry in one of the other ones.
Did anyone get what the magistrate is saying? Oh and it looks as though he is on the throne in Fangtasia
Ok so DOD sex likely. And HAH “isnt Bill up to his stamina” muhahaha
ok so NO DOD sex likely I meant
Liz-You fucking rock!!! thank you…damn did i record 2 1/2 hours of lost for nothing…I knew not to trust the 11:15pm thing…i didn’t get to use this new technology hahahaha
I love how he said “even though i do want what is his” and the way he looks at her when he says it…6 hours DAYYYYUUUUMMMM ERIC…no wonder Sookie jumps on him in the trailer lol
awww, thanks hun, but really all i did was google “true blood code” over and over till it came up, so i cant really take credit for breaking the code, i just ninja’d it
Smart! Thanks for putting your awesome ninja skills to use for us!
OK i just re-watched it …..and Yvetta is behind him…in chain…some hot stuff over there!!!!!!!
I agree, we don’t really know what they were doing in this video, we just know that it lasted for 6 (good lord) hours. That’s it. What ever Eric did, we can see by Sookie’s face that she knows by this scene and we will too.
OK that was cool and all but why all the drama to see it? The reason I thought it was embedded was because we were going to see FF or more nudity than they were willing to show on TV. Or was it just to generate all the hype?
honestly its probably just an advertisement thing for these app’s…they probably paid HBO money, they worked this thing out so ppl download their apps.
I liked it i dont think there was anything gross about it. The only thing that irked me was Sookie accusing Eric. What motive would Eric have to kidnap Bill, besides wanting Sookie? Does she think hes that obsessed with her? LOL
Well in the show, some would say, SA wanted Eric to take care of the fact Bill knows about selling vamp blood
Yeah but Sookie doesnt know about that, so her only motivation for thinking that is because she knows ERic wants her.
Ashley, because Bill punched him the face in Dallas. Also, she thought he had kidnapped him in Dalls as well. Remember that he did call Lorena in. I would have accused him 1st and then Lorena 2nd.
Yeah i guess the punch is good enough reason. But does Sookie even know that Eric called Lorena? Did Bill tell her? I dont remember him telling her.
I still subscribe to Sunny’s Alternate BBS theory. I think that during their talk prior to the bomb going off that Eric did tell her he called Lorena in… why else would she ask in this new clip if he could contact her.
Because Bill probably told her that it was Eric who sent her in. Bill would tell her anything that would help in his “Eric is evil” campaign.
He probably told her off-camera.
Yeah i can believe that. I just wanted to make sure i wasnt missing something.
THANKS SO MUCH for all your hard work to put this up for us!
Six hours? Bill not up to snuff … LMFAO
Eric is smokin hot !!!!!!!!!!
Well and as usual Sookie comes off as a total beotch in that clip. Honestly why does the Viking want her?
It’s okay LLC – from what we have seen of the new promos, her attitude towards him improves dramatically.
yeah I know but I hate the way she has been portrayed almost as much as what has been done to Eric. I really do miss the early books –Sookie!
I know how you feel, LKC. I feel the same way Hon. However, everything that we have seen so far looks really promising.
*hug*
I feel exactly the same way.
I think youre right and i hope so, because in this clip she was really annoying. I already mentioned it but what real reason does she have for accusing ERic? What would his motivation be for kidnapping Bill? She doesnt even know about the V selling and what the Queen said to Eric. I guess shes just making assumptions based on the Laffy thing, but it still annoys me.
She is probably making assumptions based on the fact she thought Eric kidnapped Bill in Dallas. Also, Bill punched Eric in the face in Dallas.
Yeah VL already mentioned that. I forgot about the punch. That makes sense.
**Whew** Okay, that wasn’t so bad!! Thank God! Can someone tells me what he says to her after she says “Where can I find Lorena”?
I loved: “You seem surprised? Is Bill’s stamina not up to snuff??” HAHAHAHAHA!
he said something along the lines of: after your last encounter with Ms. Krisinski(i think thats her last name) maybe its best if i handled this
no her last name is BALL!!!!!
Mr Ball had a very early release of DITF so it wouldnt have been too late for him to write that into the scene
he basically said, he’ll deal with Lorena, due to the nature of their last run in
Oooh! Okay thanks Dee and Liz! I had a hard time understanding what he said. Thanks!
It sounds like he says “given your last run in with Miss Krissy?!” WTF? Am i hearing that wrong?
the funny part is that they are talking with Yvetta probably bheind him….
i sooo wanna see Sookie’s face when she run downstairs!!!!LOL
Thank all of you for posting this!!!!!!!
you can actually see her arm moving, very early on
ok so a few mins ago they showed a new trailer during lost, some new scenes and they had the qb code, i used the neoreader app and sent me to same vid that Liz posted
Still not 11:15 is it? WTF with giving the time if the time isn’t right?
i know so annoying…It’s funny because I just happened to put Lost on and it was commercials, the 2nd commercial that came on was the TB trailer.
So what was Sookie doing in the 6 hours it took her to get from the “French restaurant on the way to Shreveport” to Fangtasia?
And, given that she worked all day, then got fixed up and went out to dinner, then did who knows what until she got to Eric’s, she seems awfully wide awake and her hair and clothes are not at all messed up.
Are we just not supposed to think about these things?
No Molly, the 6 hours is probably during the time that she got off work, went home showered got dressed, etc. It’s not 6 hours from the time Bill was kidnapped.
But why would she assume hed been having sex with Yvetta for six hours specifically? The only thing I can think of is maybe its been six hours since it got dark.
Oh wait, you guys are right. She says “where were you at 11:00″. How could 6 hours have gone by since Bill went missing??? Unless she went him first and then to Shreveport? WTF?
**home**
I think she went home for a nap and when she woke up she redid her hair and makeup because she looks so neat six hours after Bill’s disappearance. Actually Eric looks very neat, too, for someone who has had six hours of sex play with Yvetta. Neither one of them had a hair out of place.
Something’s fishy about all this.
I didnt really get that either? No way its five o clock in the morning. I mean i assume maybe she went to Bills house and then to fangtasia. That would have taken an hour tops.
Plus, wouldn’t the sun be rising soon? Shouldn’t Eric be getting ready for his daytime sleep? Unless he has a “hideyhole” somewhere in Fangtasia, which is possible. Ugh, come TB Writers! Seriously!!
Yeah it doesnt make sense. Why would she say six hours? And yeah if it was five o clock Eric would have to sleep. So i dont get it.
I think she just wanted to know what he was doing all evening. It’s kind of like when the police might question somebody they say “so where were you on the day of so and so” they want to know about the whole day…she wants to see what he had time to do earlier and if it’s possible. Maybe she thought he could’ve followed them and waited until he had the opportunity so since she is not sure of the time frame when he would’ve left Fangtasia she just mentioned all 6 hours of the evening that has passed by to get a clearer answer
Okay, that makes much more sense. lol
I think it just means he’s been “busy” for the last six hours while Sookie was finishing up work, getting ready for her date, and actually being on the date up until Bill was kidnapped.
I was going to say something along those lines too. Bill wouldn’t have been able to take her out until the sun set and some planning would have to have gone into Bill’s kidnapping. There’s no way Eric just knew where Bill was and was able to kidnap him. Someone had to follow them or something along those lines. So from the beginning of their date to Sookie’s interrupting Eric has possibly been six hours. If that makes sense.
As an aside, I want to know how difficult it was for her to keep eye contact with Eric… heh, heh, heh…
That is exactly what I was thinking when she said six hours. What could she have been possibly been doing for the last six hours? We know it only takes about an hour to drive from Bon Temps to Shreveport, according to the books.
You know, I actually liked Sookie in this. I think her attitude was appropriate given the circumstances and I like that she shows no fear of him. I also like that he gave her important info about his position – the he is duty bound to find him as Sheriff of the area. Very good and I liked it. Plus it’s nice, as Dee has said, that he is not asking her to find him but telling her that it’s his job to find him instead.
Hey guys, is this the first time that he tells her that he is interested in her besides that first night in Fangtasia?
I think so.
I think it is, I can’t remember a circumstance he was so direct with her.. it was my favorite part,
I think it is although she had to have realized after Dallas.
That is what I am thinking too. I don’t think he has ever said it out loud to her, maybe to Bill. Did you see her reaction when he said that?!!
You’re right, Robin! I loved that part! I loved that he totally caught her off guard. lol
And THEN, she very quickly glances down before she tells him “then do it” and turns to go up the stairs! I loved it!
And her face even looks like she might be thinking “Damn 6 hours” lol
And, you know he can sense her emotions because she has had his blood! Can you imagine what would be going through her mind on the drive home to Bon Temps?
lol! I’m having fun thinking about it.
Well you are right. Its good shes not scared of him. And i liked the fact that he said its his duty to find Bill. What i didnt like is her accusing him, but considering the punch in Dallas as you mentioned it makes more sense.
I liked it too. It turned out better than I thought it would. The whole dungeon / basement thing is still a little emmm…. disturbing, but that whore probably didn’t deserve better (although she did have him for 6 f**king hours!!). How is it that Eric still manages to look so good in a cam video?? LOL! I was truly dreading this scene, but it turned out ok. I’m glad that Sookie is ok with it (I didn’t see disgust on her face at all). Loved Eric’s remark about Bill’s stamina! And definitely loved how he looked at her when he said Bill has something he wants. Loved her quick little glance southward when she said “then do it”
Looked like she gulped when she said that! haha!
Was the trailer that aired during Lost any different than the ones we’ve seen? if so, anybody have a link yet?
this is the one that supposedly was shown during lost. it’s slightly different from the one SVB posted earlier
http://hbo.plushms.mobi/TB/trailer_iphone.shtml
yeah it is a bit different…some scenes are the same but others that i havent seen also…im gonna rewind back to it and explain ones we havent seen
Did anyone notice at the very last second right before the clip ends that Sookie finally give a quick glance down at Eric’s GP?
So is naky in this clip or what? I think he is.
Hahahahaha yeah she does…i didnt notice it before…its just a quick glance but she definitely looked! Who wouldnt?
I noticed it on about the 20th view lol.
Honest to God he is just stunningly beautiful.
Man you can bet that all the Bill Babe sites are passin around a bottle of anti-depressants tonight.
I still think that they dont see anything happening between Sookie and Eric to be honest, from what ive read. They think its all just misdirection, and that the Sookie/Eric bed scene is just a dream. I guess people can have there own opinions, but based on what weve seen i dont know what they are thinking.
Yeah and I love how it is in response to him full body scanning her, she couldn’t help herself.. lol.
ok, call me boring, but sex in the basement dirty = disgusting,
AB and HBO really think this is a fantasy that women (or men) have?
this is a fantasy of some guy strange and uptight, and not a Sex Viking God who can have any woman, TB Eric or Eric Book. He could well have BDSM in a local cleaner is not it? Book Eric definitely be dead to me in TB. I still like it, but it’s not Eric.
this is my complaint and not the form of sex he wants.
and besides THIS is the major reason for Eric not have kidnapped the Bill? blehh
You’re right, Jo. Of course the slop bucket has been emptied, and Royce has been scraped from the floor. Did anyone think they wouldn’t have been? It’s still the same disgusting place.
There was no indication from the last 2 seasons that Eric was hardcore into kink, but now the first thing he does with a new playmate is a 6 hr marathon bondage session? I know others disagree, but my bs sensor is going off.
Well what i found weird is Sookie didnt seem all that shocked by whatever she was seeing. What she seemed shocked by was the six hours part.
She should have been shocked at was the lack of blood. I still think he’s been holding Yvetta and questioning her.
If you think back to LDID, after Sookie was saved from TFOTS, when they were celebrating at Stan’s, Stan took Sookie upstairs to see Stan’s punishment for Isabelle and Hugo. Book Sookie thought it was appropriate. It wouldn’s be OOC for Sookie to act the way she did in the DOD, if you take this into consideration.
i think she didnt bat an eyelash at it as she is used to Bills poundings into the dirt in the graveyards antics
I will admit that the sex she has been exposed to would make her view on the world skewed… yuck is all i have to say.
she is probably used to “seeing” peoples fantasies all the time as well, and this really isn’t that far out there
I totally agree… and the fact that Sookie didn’t looked shocked by what he was doing and what he said… she didn’t even bat an eyelid
yeah somethings up but i dont know what.
Someone will have to restrain me from killing AB if it turns out that E & Y are in the basement playing strip yhatzee or something equally retarded.
When you take into consideration Eric himself, I think he seems strained and somewhat reserved, but that might be more on the ineffectualness of Yvetta. lol. I also don’t think he seems very turned on, his fangs aren’t even out when he is speaking to Sookie.
So if Yvette is a spy for someone and to go on from Renee’s theory that they aren’t having sex (Eric is questioning her) that he limits the talk due to that. He still maybe saying little other then the appropriate lines: Bill’s in my area i must look for him…
Now how does that line tie in with the queens visit???? Renee??? Sunny????
I have no clue about SA’s visit. It could have to do with the V, Bill’s kidnapping, or Eric’s plot against RE.
Eric is a vampire, and vampires don’t live by human social codes. It’s even hinted at in the books that he’s seen and done some nasty things in his long life. This scenerio doesn’t bother me, and the whole thing with Eric/Yvetta seems to be consensual.
The way he admits to Sookie that he wants her, then looking her up and down is HOT. OOH and Miss Sook is caught totally off guard and at a loss for words. LOL! Major sexual chemistry going on there!
I agree. Crap, it was probably Yvettas idea to do it down there for all we know. And Eric is probably up for anything. I dont see anything wrong with it.
Agreed.
And how does the new hire know about the super secret dungeon of doom? And how stupid would Eric have to be to use that place for sex with strangers?
I absolutely agree, ANS. I really don’t think vampires are fastidious or squeamish about sex, violence, etc. Book Eric was not either. This does not bother me at all. Doesn’t mean it’s my scene, particularly, but I’m not pissed off or disgusted by it. Whether it’s sex with Yvetta, or torturing her about the were-witches (although I think episode 1 is too early for that to have started), neither one of these are outside of the character of Eric–book or TV.
Sookie was loss with words at the end.
I’m confused about what on Earth AB is doing to this show. All the characters have become cardboard.
I don’t understand why people worship AB. So yeah…he plays to the audience’s wants and keeps Eric and Jason naked the whole time…but I’d rather watch Eric have some substance.
I haven’t seen Eric naked the whole time on this show … quite the contrary.
AB won a Oscar for American Beauty and several emmys for Six Feet Under. CH SOLD these characters to AB so they now belong to him and she has no say on his decisions or the development from here on out. AB did however agree to try and stay true to the “spirit” of the books.
I for one love AB’s Eric much more than CHu and I’m sure that confession will not win me any friends …lol
I like both. I dont have a problem with TB Eric really. What i have a problem with is TB Bill.
yeah, no shit.
AB may have won Oscars but he is not above reproach.
CH did not sell her characters to him. She sold him the rights to make a television adaption of her books. Ball does not own the characters.
Harris created these characters, and their essence belongs to her. Ball has the right to play with them, but the real characters belong to the author. True Blood is an adaption.
And right now I’m not very happy with it.
oh SVB I <3 you.
I didn’t mean that in a sarcastic way. i think you are spot on.
Well, though I do like book Eric better, I totally understand where you’re coming from. I love TB Eric, though he is darker than BE. Also, you see flashes of BE pop up, like in teaser clip. The way he he asks her with that little smirk if Bill isn’t up to snuff, then gives her the once-over while admitting he wants her – oh yeah, that’s totally something I could see BE doing.
yeah this is true. And in the books we dont get to see what goes on when Sookie isnt around. So i guess its expected that some things will be darker. And AB likes dark, as you can tell from his past work. So i expect we will be vindicated when we see what Bills up to.
MoreEric with all respect, CH has not sold his characters only his right to make a TV series with them, but they still belong to CH and as SVB said in another post, the final destination of these characters belongs and will always belong to her. As for AB win an Oscar is no great merit to have seen me win so bad movie, American Beauty is a very boring movie, but Six Feet Under is one of the best shows and one of the best finals I’ve ever seen and really deserved all their awards.
I just think that we should not put anyone on a pedestal because of it, neither AB nor CH and nobody. True Blood TV series is a pop and I’m sure will do a lot of success this season, but does not mean it will be proof of mistakes and poor execution.
Perhaps I am wrong, I will check but it is my understanding that she did sell all the rights to Allan Ball and she has no say so at all in how he chooses to portray them in TB. She can continue to write her books and he can do anything he wants with them in True Blood.
I personally thought American Beauty was brilliant, have little to no respect for C’s writing skills which is going to do nothing but further alienate me from people here.
There are many people who refuse to let go of the Romance Novel Eric from the books who roars with laughter, waggles his eyebrows and shows up at Halloween parties dressed as a Viking.
That is not Alexanders or AB’s Eric. He is deadly, wears his sexuality like a lethal weapon and makes no apologies for his Alpha Male status. He is going to do whatever it takes to get what he wants … period. He is not a sweet romantic Viking and I understand that many people are disappointed in that.
I find the show incredible, outstanding in its execution and one of the best shows ever to air for its courage to take on so many controversial issues It is my hope that there is room here for both views.
If not, understandable and … no problem. I’m looking for a supportive environment that is interesting in discussing the issues of the show. I find it unfulling to waste time watching people tear their hair out in anger and grief because they are so bitterly disappointment that Alan Ball is “destroying” CHs Eric or “story” since I believe that best thing to ever happen to her was Alan Ball … lol.
With that said, I’m off to bed and will check back tomorrow.
Thanks for the discussion.
We’ll just have to agree to disagree. I love Charlaine’s writing. Is she Tolstoy? No, but she’s engaging and has created in, my mind, enjoyable stories and very full characters whom I love.
I wouldn’t be watching the show if I hadn’t read the books, so I guess that’s definitely where we differ. I liken what AB is doing to what Neil Jordon did to “Interview with the Vampire.” Tom Cruise was no where near Lestat so far from him to be laughable and the major story change made in the film ruined what the whole book was about.
I don’t consider the SVM books romance books, I consider them mysteries, and it’s frustrating to me that the series seems to have brought out the “teams” by making the Bill and Eric characters so black and white. I worry that Charlaine has now been influenced by this and will continue dragging out the “love” story to the detriment of good solid stories.
At any rate, I love book Eric, I think he’s just as blood thirsty and sexy as Alex portrays him, only he’s got as sense of humor, which to me makes sense if you’ve lived 1000 years. He can laugh at himself, as well, and for me it makes him a more fulfilled character than the one Alex portrays. One can stare unblinkingly like a lion only so much and the novelty is gone. It becomes one note. So, I will continue to complain about what AB has done to the characters. He’s totally ruined Bill for me. A character I actually like in the books and he’s done a pretty good job at ruining Sookie for me too.
I feel the same way about the books. CH may not win the Pulitzer, but
her writing is engaging and humorous and I LOL’d so many times while
reading her novels.
As for BEEEHL…I like TB Bill much better than book Bill, who I find to
be a complete and utter bore, could never get into him. TBB really had
his moments in season 1 and I think Stephen Moyer is a fabulous actor and really does
does justice to the character. Can’t wait to see him portrayal of St.
Bill’s fall from grace.
I absolutely adore both Erics, though BE is my fave. I agree, I’d like to see more of the humor in TBE, though I do think we see flashes of it from time to time.
Doesn’t really bother me what AB has done to TBE, and I think we’ll see
a more complex character (humor, vulnurabilities and all) as the series
progresses.
well put.
i enjoyed the clip
MoreEric – there is certainly room here for all views.
I seem to recall you mentioned a few days ago that you’ve never read the books. That’s fine, but please understand that if you’re going to slag them off – especially never having read them – there are alot of passionate book lovers here from whom that will raise a reaction.
There are ways to get your point across without getting people’s backs up…is all I’m saying.
If you’re looking for intelligent discussion…look no further than sookieverse’s blog (Ancient Pythoness and True Blood Underground are also excellent.) Since discovering this site two weeks ago, I look forward to reading both the posts and the comments because I know I’ll find something thought provoking. If things become a little heated at times, it’s only because fans have emotionally invested in the compelling characters within SVM/TB. Sometimes I have to remind myself it’s just television show when I find myself screaming, “For the love of all that’s holy…grow a spine, Sookie!” I think one’s preference for either the show or the books may have to do with how one was introduced to the storyline.
What I mean is that nobody, nobody owns the absolute truth, if only because AB has won a lot of awards to prove it does not make mistakes, I think this is the beginning is not it? Is not that what modern society has to question? blind faith in all its forms.
I do not know if you read the books or not, but CH is not a fantastic writer and neither will win the Nobel Prize for literature, his books and his writing is pop, but not because it has less value than any other type of literature, if not AB would not think to adapt to the tv, is not it?
The Caesar what is Caesar’s.
I want to correct me, I said the film American Beauty is a bad movie and did not deserve the Oscar, but it is annoying and I did not like, but I’m not intellectual and I’m not one to judge the understanding of so many people more qualified than me.
But I love Six Feet Under, so I think that AB deserves the benefit of the doubt, but no my blind faith.
Glad that you can enjoy the show for what it is, unfortunately not me, but I reserve the right to criticize me too since they are selling a product and I am the consumer, if I’ll keep watching then? I do not know, I’ll wait to decide to end this season.
As for CH sell their characters, whether she would need permission to sell AB to write it not? think anyone really “sell” their rights to their characters, at least not today, just a commitment to adapt his work.
I just hope you do not see this as a personal attack, but it is my opinion and I express it and hope it continues to express her too, even though I disagree and question.
i think its been said already, but here’s my take, this is a great place to share opinions, and ideas, without fear of personal attacks. Sure you might open up a passionate discussion, but none of the ladies here have ever belittled, or attacked me here for my sometimes crazy fangirlish ideas or theories, which cant be said about other sites i have visited. I think if you are use to being on defense from visiting other sites, its only natural to be suspicious. We seem to get very few trolls even.
I for one have enjoyed your posts, and find you friggin hilarious, so i hope you decide to come back. Im a definite bookie, and although i hate that such great Eric moments were given to Beeeell in TB, i see alot of BE in TBE, and vise versa. AS has read the books, and i think he is doing an amazing job with the material given to him, except, well, i’d really like it if he grew his hair out
Me too Patty.
I’m pissed beyond words at this whole thing.
The whole vibe I got from him during this scene was just sleaze. Yeah, sure he was all “I want you”….WHILE HE’S PLAYING BONDAGE GAMES WITH SOME SKANK – WHO IS RIGHT THERE WATCHING ALL OF THIS – IN HIS FILTHY BASEMENT.
I’m sorry, I’m past trying to justify this crap anymore. This is WRONG.
There’s an epic rant brewing, you know it.
SVB you’re not alone with that I agree with you.
He was kind of you know … ironic, but no real sense of humor, I do not expect much from Sookie, but Eric, maybe after I go to sleep and rest a while I see differently but for now I did not like.
I wonder if CH is rolling over in her grave right now, and I do mean grave, I think this may have killed her.
Now it feels like Eric is sex addict, and maybe he always was, but it never felt this unhealthy. He does seem like a sex-crazed loon, telling Sookie that. The whole scene is just, its so,.. unnecessary.
And I can’t get the dirty basement out of my head either.
I don’t think CH will mind because in the book Eric was a sex addict. When I was reading the book I thought of Eric as vampire Jason but Eric has a brain and Jason does not.
Maybe he is, LLE , but Sookie never saw it, we never saw it. Book Eric is smooth, intuitive, he understands women,… they are making it look like he is all about the sex abilities, and not the substance. Maybe they are trying to emphasize the gravity of his change in character, I just never thought they would go so low.
I really don’t want to think about this anymore, its too distressing.
Every time Sookie arrives at his bar someone always go to Eric and let him know that she there and Sookie always waiting at the bar. In book one Sookie seen Eric kissing Ginger. Sookie in the book knew that Eric was a playboy.
Eric in the books did not care for humans at all and the only person he care about was Sookie.
You mention that the skank is right there in the basement. She can hear everything that is being said presumably. If she is a spy, she sure has a load of information at this point. Poorly played Eric, poorly played.
Well but she really didn’t hear anything that was a secret. Bill is missing/kidnapped and Eric has to find him. I don’t think there’s anything that can be gauged from that other than it’s business as usual in the vamp world. Unless Eric wants to keep it a secret from the SA but it seems like that’s not the case here. QSA does shows up to Fangtasia at some point early in the season it seems so maybe he tells her the truth? I do agree though and I cannot for the life of me understand why Eric would bring a stranger to a secret vamp dungeon.
I was thinking more in the way of Eric admitting that Bill has something he wants. Whether she Yv. figures it out that it’s Sookie or not, now she knows Eric has a weakness. Could be useful info to whoever she is spying for. Seriously, I’m just trying to get past the DOD and am grasping at straws.
It’s not the kinky sex that bothers me, it’s Eric’s implied attitude towards women. All the reasons being given to me smack of rationalization. I feel like AB is Billifing the character Eric. Just a bad feeling in general. Hope to hell I’m wrong.
I really don’t think it’s going to come off as badly as everyone is thinking. The devil’s in the details and we’re missing a lot of context here.
I think, worst case scenario, Eric is going to come off as the vampire version of Jason Stackhouse in the sex department– and as much of a tramp as Jason may be, I wouldn’t say I’ve ever witnessed him mistreating a woman or leading her on. He just gives ‘em what they want with great skill and enthusiasm.
Anyway, I can understand if someone sees that as a point against Eric’s character. I just don’t exactly see it that way. For all of Jason’s indiscretion he IS still capable of deep love and loyalty, and the show has indicated as much.
maybe. Thanks for trying MAS.
Agreed, totally. As you said in another comment MAS, Sookie crashed HIS party. It’s not like he went out of his way to throw his sex with Yvette (if that is indeed what is going on) in her face.
It would be worse, and OOC, if Eric had been shame-faced and covered himself and Yvette to try and coddle Sookie’s widdle feewings. That is Bill’s job. She barged down there instead of waiting until they were ‘decent’ so she can just deal.
She’s accusing him of snatching her fiancee so he snarks at her about Bill’s lack of stamina. I might get snippy too if someone falsely accused me of something.
As for coming on to Sookie with Yvette tied up behind him, I think it was a little deeper and more serious than a ‘come-on’. He didn’t ask her to joing them or say something like ‘nice tits’. What he said and they way he looked at her struck me as tender and poignant and genuine. It almost looked like he couldn’t help himself.
If he’s in the DOD having kinky sex with Yvette it is because that is what Yvette wanted. Full stop. He hasn’t forced her or done anything to her she didn’t want, you can bet on it.
Sunny, I have to agree to disagree with you on the –Tender, poignant and genuine. To me it was cheap and sleazy considering the surroundings and circumstances. Big girl pants or not, that’s not the kind of declaration one wants to hear in those circumstances. To me it sounds tawdry.
You’re doing the same thing as Sookie and falling for the ‘romantic trappings’. One way Bill has fooled Sookie is by coming on like a hero from a Harlequin Romance. What does it matter, really, where they are when Eric makes such a declaration if it’s genuine and heartfelt?
Bill was flat out deceiving her in a beautiful French restaurant while giving her a diamond with the music playing.
Which is better? A lie in a beautiful setting or the plain truth in a gutter?
What AB is doing is Eric is not wearing mask but Bill. Bill is under orders to get close to Sookie. Eric wants Sookie and he letting her to know that. Eric is not pretending that he wants Sookie because you can see it in his face. Bill is a con artist and he not telling her the truth.
Absolutely, Sunny! You said it perfectly. Unless Yvetta was there against her will, there is nothing sleazy about consensual sex–of any kind–between adults. Why is it sleazy that he is extremely sexual and acts on that? Unless he is raping Yvetta, there is nothing “Bill” about this. He does not belong to Sookie at this point–and at this point she doesn’t want him.
And I agree with MAS that we are missing a lot of context here. Either way, I’m feeling pretty good about this season. Oh, I’m sure there will be plenty to be pissed off about, and I’m sure I’ll be yelling long and loud at AB at some points. But for now color me rosy.
yeah i agree. I dont see anything wrong with it and im really looking forward to this season.
Thankfully after my initial shock I have definitely come around. I now definitely agree with both Sunny and MAS as well. Thankfully! It took me a second though. lol
I understand where the rest of the guys are coming from though because I had the exact same concerns and arguments. Now I feel much better!
I agree with you, Sunny, 100%. Also, the way he watched her
walk up the stairs…that wasn’t a lacsivious look. At this
point Eric’s desire for Sookie is going beyond curiosity
and lust,and it’s written all over his face.
That look reminded me of the look on his face when the queen asked him if he was in love with Sookie. I think he just cant help himself around her.
I so agree, MAS
Exactly.
And I’m still just sitting here gobsmacked that so many of us will jump all over Bill for his misogynistic tendencies – yet when it’s Eric…it can be justified six ways from Sunday.
Exactly. We always wonder what makes Bill fans excuse his behaviour and blame his maker, his queen, his lack of years, yet Eric fans are now doing the same thing?
Maybe that’s the reaction AB is going for? It can’t have escaped his notice that one group of fans say “I can’t believe you’re excusing that behaviour!” so maybe he’s purposefully creating a scenario where the same group are forced to make the same excuses?
That’s what it seems like to me. He’s giving Eric the Bill treatment.
Isn’t anyone else sick of being manipulated? It’s making me loose interest in what is going on. Arrogance on AB”s part maybe has made him overplay his hand. There comes a point where you have to say “enough”. Two seasons of maybe you see it maybe you don’t, or it isn’t what you think it is, who gives a furry rats behind after a while. Rant for the AM.
YES.
Bobsgran: I totally agree. Maybe he thinks that the majority of views only watch it for the sex/blood/nudity, and not story line. Maybe we shouldn’t care about what is deeper. It’s insanity what happens with TB sometimes.
Not really. Bill is lying to and Sookie does not know that why the reason Bill show up to Bon Temp. Eric is letting Sookie know that he wants her.
It does not bother that Eric is sleeping with other women and he is not involved with Sookie. Eric is not Sookie’s boyfriend. Bill is her boyfriend and she is planning on marrying Bill.
I just don’t think we know enough to draw any conclusions about it one way or the other yet. From where I stand, this could go in one of two different directions in terms of implied mysogyny right now– and as far as comparisons to Book Bill go, this all boils down to Yvetta’s feedback in the whole situation.
SVB, it hurts to see you tormented by this, the scene bothers me too but I do have a feeling it will get better once we see it. Maybe. I think they put it in for shock value without much regard to Eric’s character, hopefully there was a reason to debase him like this. I think I’m going to pretend this scene doesn’t exist until I see it. DOD, I abjure you!
OT, the nesters seem to think all this ‘overexposure’ of E/S so far is because they are hiding the main storyline. LOL. I wish I could be that simple-minded.
Yeah but the main storyline will be Bills demise so that really isnt going to go in the nesters favor.
Crap!!!!!
I don’t mean what is being said is crap, I mean I feel like crap.
Oh, and for what it’s worth, I don’t think that Bill has really done anything awful to Sookie on the show yet. He’s condescending and annoying at times… but whatevs. That’s a personality issue.
However, if Bill’s true motives are revealed this season– and I’m fairly certain they WILL be– then it will cast his otherwise decent actions in a whole new light.
Oh, and that’s not to mention killing Uncle Bartlett. But going by that, at least, I don’t think Bill’s got Eric beat in the morality department by a long shot.
Again, I just can’t see Eric going out of his way to make Sookie comfortable in this situation, when she made no effort to respect his privacy and wait for him. She put herself in that situation, and I really don’t think he owes her anything in that respect.
For all we know, he asked her to step into his office, where he would meet her in a moment, and she refused, demanding answers NOW.
My point: Let’s wait until we see the whole scene.
Again, I just can’t see Eric going out of his way to make Sookie comfortable in this situation, when she made no effort to respect his privacy and wait for him. She put herself in that situation, and I really don’t think he owes her anything in that respect.
Exactly. It is Bill’s job to shield her from unpleasantries and treat her like a child. If Sookie wants to barge into an adult situation she needs to put on her big girl panties.
Besides, she didn’t look at all disgusted. She sounded impressed with the ’6 hours’ and in the other clip of the two of them on the porch, which is obviously later, she’s looking at him all starry eyed. Whatever she saw down there didn’t seem to bother her in the least.
It’s not about who should be shielding her from the nasties, or whether or not Sookie deserves an eyeful for barging in there in the first place.
It’s the fact that this whole scenario is completely off, from start to finish.
I just need to step away for a while I think.
[If Sookie wants to barge into an adult situation she needs to put on her big girl panties.]
Oh LOL, Sunny. THIS.
MAS, what scene would that be? lol. (abjured, I tell you, abjured!). lalalalaala.
Another thing, like the splicing of the Lou Pine’s scenes in the second promo, these clips are being carefully edited to manipulate our understanding of them. The finished results could be much different.
Well, as you said in another comment MAS, she DID deal quite well with the situation.
Bill would have thrown a bag over her head to shield her virgin eyes and rushed her out of there.
Eric assumed she is an adult and treated her like one. Instead of coddling her he treated her as an equal by giving as good as he got. To me, that is the opposite of misogyny.
To me, the ‘come-on’ was not a cheap line but a genuine statement of his feelings.
I’m not sure what people expected Eric to do in that situation?
And I am not making excuses because I do not see anything to excuse.
Sunny, I have to agree with you here– and think this scene offers a good opportunity to discuss the different implications presented by consensual bondage play and rape.
It is a misnomer to assume that anyone who is interested in sub-dom activities either likes raping or being raped. A rape FANTASY is fine, and perfectly normal… but a RAPE is NOT fine OR normal. EVER.
If I may return to some of the conversations in the past that we’ve had about talking the talk and walking the walk with respect to Eric and Bill: Eric may LOOK like the “bad guy” from a superficial standpoint, and based on the circumstances that we see him in. Just like when he made the comment about “willing” partners to the blood hooker– but then proceeded to politely send her off with a GIANT tip and a good reference– we may draw conclusions about his time with Yvetta in the “torture chamber.” But this scene will inevitably be juxtaposed with Eric offering a great deal of (apparently mindblowing) oral sex– which is hardly the trademark of a pathological sadist.
Bill, on the other hand, APPEARS to be sweet, loving, and loyal– he talks the talk. But under the surface, i think we will see a much different truth about him– and his actions over the course of this season are bound to give him away. Just like Eric’s actions underscore the deceptiveness of his “bad boy” image.
Anyway, I don’t think the above observations are rationalization. I think it’s the obvious comparison that the show is asking us as viewers to make– one that the writers have set up by juxtaposing the two male leads in the manner that they have.
And if I may extend this illustration to a larger metaphor…
I think that Ball is making a statement about hypocrisy, and one that specifically applies to the fight for GLBT rights– and even more specifically, the right to marry.
On the one hand, you have supposedly God-fearing moral Christian folk who proceed to violate the very family values they defend on a regular basis by beating their wives, cheating, and sublimating their own urges to disastrous and hypocritical ends.
On the other hand you have the so-called “perverse” out and proud gay community– who are able to maintain rock-solid relationships and build gorgeous, loving families who raise gorgeous, loving children– but who are being denied their rights because they’re “sinners.”
It’s all kinds of fucked up, and speaks to the superficiality of our moral compass in this country. Moreover, I think that it’s fair to assume which factions Bill and Eric are representing in this allegory, if I am in fact correct in my artistic analysis of True Blood and its themes.
{Eric assumed she is an adult and treated her like one. Instead of coddling her he treated her as an equal by giving as good as he got. To me, that is the opposite of misogyny.
To me, the ‘come-on’ was not a cheap line but a genuine statement of his feelings.
I’m not sure what people expected Eric to do in that situation?
And I am not making excuses because I do not see anything to excuse.}
Sunny, I agree with your post. I do differ slightly on the “line” part. I think that yes, it was him being honest and saying I’ll look for Bill even though I want you but I also think it was him kind of “f***cking” with her because she disrepected him as well. She was left speechless and I think that was his intention. She had absolutely no right to barge down to there the way that she did. I’m sure Pam tried to stop her and she disregarded her because she thought she was tough. Well, she got more than she bargained for and Eric had a right to react the way that he did. The real truth is that Sookie had a lot of nerve doing what she did. She had no right. Bill treats Sookie like a child and a paper doll. Eric treated Sookie like an equal and a woman by putting her in her place. I don’t see anything wrong with that. If he had hit her or something to that effect, then yes it would have been different. But that wasn’t the case here. There is a very big difference between Bill and Eric and I don’t think the two can ever be compared because of this DOD scenario.
I don’t think he disrespected either woman. Yvetta is definitely a casual fling who doesn’t give a sh***t othe than getting laid. We saw the minisode – she clearly would have slept with both Pam and Eric at the same time. She basically walked in and took her clothes off. Believe me, she had no problem with what Eric said to Sookie. I’m sure Eric wouldn’t have said what he had if the situation had been different.
Well he lies a lot. Thats what hes done on the show thats bad, othere than being uber controlling and possessive.
I honestly don’t see where this is mysoginistic, that’s all. If he were slapping Yvetta around. If he strung her up against her will. That would be one thing. But the sheer fact (and we don’t know the whole scenario) that it appears Sookie busted in on them, like a wild thing, to me, makes completely understandable that he would walk away from Yvetta, naked (cause that’s what he is) and confront her. Should he stop, take Yvetta down, make sure she’s okay, put a robe on her, put some pants on, send her upstairs, then turn around to a woman spitting with fury that he kidnapped her boyfriend? SHE interrupted THEM. AND DIDN’T LEAVE WHEN SHE SAW WHAT SHE WAS INTERRUPTING! Do you think Sookie would have walked quietly upstairs and wait for them to put themselves in order? Sookie’s BEEELLLL has been kidnapped and she’s sure Eric did it! She would NEVER leave.
And as to the “come on.” Again, she has accused him of something awful. It isn’t a come on like “let’s the three of us get it on baby.” It’s “I’ll help you even though I don’t want to, baby.”
For the first time, IMHO, TB Sookie is acting like Book Sookie. This scene didn’t bother me in the least. The acting did.
Also, I don’t hate Bill for the reasons everyone else does. I just hate that he’s whiney and controlling. BUT nothing in this scene is like Bill throwing Jessica across a room, screaming at Sookie, lying to Sookie and generally making her feel stupid and helpless.
That is why i feel that the BSS isn’t what it seemed. Everything was OOC for everyone there, especially Bill’s behavior and reaction to what he saw. All you need to do is look at his past actions. Past behaviors denote future behavior. He reaction to Sookie taking Jessica back home is only a small part of his reaction towards Jessica and Hoyt’s.. As her maker he should have been able to feel her lust, but not blood lust. He would have known, if he actually gave a damn about his duty as a maker, his child and NOT getting it on with Sookie, that Hoyt’s was in no danger. His reaction to Lorena is even more sever, and he was only being held against his will. Sookie was sucking on another guys chest, one that he knew for certain (via Eric’s behavior towards Sookie) wanted his women in some form (at this point i just see it as lust… moving to more maybe in the church). His calm and stable reaction doesn’t fit with what we have seen. JMO
Yeah, I agree with you.
I don’t think Eric has had Yvetta in that position for 6 hours, but the implication is that they have been playing down there that time, and him without a hair out of place suggests that he has kept her restrained. I just don’t like what that says about him. I don’t like the implication that the only reason Eric looked bored the night that Sookie met him was because there wasn’t a Fangbanger up to his standards he could play with all night while Pam ran his business. I don’t care if Yvetta likes to do it for an audience and Sookie barged in. Letting Pam leave Sookie down there was so unEric. He always treats Sookie better than she deserves, so to imagine that he was standing there with hid hips thrust out and nude with Yvetta all over him is beyond the pale.
I think he must have been wearing pants, and Yvetta must have been in her lingerie.
Maybe Pam led Sookie down there to get back at Eric for “hogging” Yvetta– or because Sookie was pitching a giant hissy fit. To me, both scenarios seem like very distinct possibilities.
Anyway, it’s not as if Eric planned to have Sookie come there so he could throw Yvetta (and his GP) in her face. But if she’s going to come down to the basement (despite what MIGHT have been Pam’s forewarning) then she got what she asked for. And yes, I think Eric probably enjoyed watching her squirm, if only to teach her a little lesson about “knocking before you come in.”
If Yvetta turns out to be obviously upset or offended by Eric taking a time-out to talk to Sookie, then I will change my tune. But Sookie stood there and had a conversation with him in spite of the scene, too… and I doubt SHE would do that if she didn’t get the impression that all parties were more than fine with it.
In fact, they were BOTH probably aiming to make the innocent good girl uncomfortable, and Sookie kept her chin up and stood her ground. Gotta give her credit for that.
I dont’ doubt anything you say MAS, but a few sharp words in Swedish should have had Pam escorting Sookie to his office to cool her heels while he finished with Yvetta.
Ah, but the cat would have been out of the bag already. And Eric would be betraying some level of embarassment to Sookie in shooing them away. And that doesn’t seem in line with his character at all.
Well, if she insisted upon being escorted down to the DOD, as seems likely since she would figure if Eric had Bill that is where he would keep him prisoner, then why would they deny her the opportunity to see for herself?
Eric is obviously not ashamed of what he was doing and why should he be? He’s not dating Sookie and if she insists upon interrupting his private time, again, she can just deal with the consequences. Daddy Bill might think he should shield her from realities but Eric is being shown here to allow Sookie to see HIM, the real ERIC, in all his hardcore glory and she can like it or not, it’s up to her. which is something Bill would never allow–neither the reality of him nor the choice.
Instead of embarrassment, it could have been played that Eric was ticked at Pam for interrupting him, and she should have been reprimanded. Then he could have made Sookie wait a good long time before he joined her. This was just as crass as Jason forking Randy Sue by the dumpster while carrying on a conversation with Tara. At least Jason was high. Eric has no excuse if that scene was what it appeared.
Sunny,
I can see how this scene would parallel Sookie having to accept Bill’s vampire nature of Bill. Especially in the books when Bill makes no apologies for killing humans before the Great Revelation. He just puts it out there, and Sookie has to come to terms with it.
Of course Eric is not going to hide his sexuality from Sookie, but it’s just stupid for him to use the DOD for sex and crass the way he handled the situation IMO. Eric should be neither of those things.
I think at that very moment, Sookie, wanted answers right then and there and wouldn’t have gone upstairs and waited for Eric in his office. If that were the case then she would’ve asked for Eric and not gone downstairs and just waited upstairs for him to begin with.
I know a lot of people won’t agree but there are other reasons I like this scene. In book 3, Eric, tells Sookie that Bill is missing. He comes to Sookie because he wants her to help find Bill. At first he doesn’t tell her about, Lorena, because he doesn’t want words out of his mouth to hurt her which was sweet. Now if he would’ve stopped there then that would’ve been great but he continued and said that he also didn’t tell her because if she knew the truth then she might not help him find Bill. He also told her that he could torture her to find out what she is hiding.
In this scene we see that Sookie tells Eric and Eric says that he will deal with it. So i’m glad there is no manipulation to get Sookie to help and he is NOT doing it to save his ass like in the book but instead simply because it is his duty. Now people can’t judge him that he tries to find Bill only because he can get in trouble or send Sookie to do it for same reason. He is even concerned in this scene about Sookie dealing with Lorena herself and thats why it’s better if he handles it. Shows he is not willing to just throw Sookie into a potentially dangerous situation. Instead of any torture lines, we get a line that says he wants her. So comparing how it happens in the book and in the show, I like the outcome bc of that.
Dee, I agree with you 100%.
If it important information, Eric is going to glamor Yvetta.
The idea of Eric using the prisoner’s dungeon as some sort of S&M chamber is pretty gross, but are we even sure that this is the same room as the one Laffy was kept in?
Couldn’t there just be another underground room under Fangtasia? One which houses extra offices / accommodation / storage / whatever? Sure, it looks dark and dingy like the dungeon, and yeah, even the stairs seem to be in a similar layout, but still – it could easily be a different room entirely!
At least, that’s what I’m telling myself
Bondage is a pretty normal sex fantasy, it seems like one many people try. Maybe not tied up quite the same but look how popular handcuffs are, or look at the Jason/Dawn scene. We’ve seen many movies and shows where we see someone tied up to a bed for example. I don’t think it’s really taking it to the extreme really.
Yeah i think so to. A lot of people do it, and Yvetta im sure wanted to so i dont see a problem.
After a thousand years who’s to say what one might resort to for stimulation which is why I’m trying not to judge. .
I don’t think its extreme either … especially for Eric
I agree.
And remember in book 2 Eric is talking to Sookie about how many orgies he has gone to, and that little one they were at in LDID was nothing compared to what he has been to. So bondage in the DOD with one woman is probably very innocent for Book Eric or TB Eric. Only thing is that in the books it’s all Sookies POV.
And the books are told from Sookie’s POV. Of course she wouldn’t know much about Eric’s sex life when it didn’t include her.
Forgot to mention the Maudette and Jason scene, so we’ve seen this bondage thing on TB before.
i agree, he’s both vamp, and Viking, rape and pillage ring any bells? the guy has a history, hell he’s a part of it. Consider all the horrors he’s seen, just among humans, not even considering the things hes seen in vamp world………..
ok in the new trailer, who is that running behind Sookie in the woods? it’s daytime and i pause it but can’t see their face. Doesnt look like Alcide hmmm. Also Franklin holds a man while Tara punches him…I think its jason who tackles a man to the floor. Also, what is up with Tara running in that long white gown holding rope
The problem I have with Eric and Yvetta having nasty basement sex is the same problem I have with TB Eric eating people in the basement. Yes we know Eric has seen and done some nasty things in his 2,000 years. He had pretty much given up on humanity and human. UNTIL he met Sookie. That is one of the huge themes in the Sookie series. Eric and Sookie change one another and Eric’s character evolution is fascinating and I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT! And Eric’s character can’t evolve on TB and it will not make any sense if he is interested in Sookie and still doing other people and basically going on with his old tricks. It will come off as insincere and cheap. Ok that is my rant, I’m done
Also how do we know yvetta is tied up down there? I know people talked about seeing a woman’s arm chained up in the corner of the photo from this scene but I don’t see that. Am I missing something? I mean I guess this clip alluded to him having sex for hours. Which also, in the books it doesn’t seem like vampire sex lasts that long. It is described as intense but not very long. just sayin…..
Well Sookie hasnt paid him any attention, so why shouldnt he get involved with other women? Book Eric and TB Eric wouldnt sit there pining away for someone that shows them little interest yet, and who is involved with someone else. So i dont have a problem with that. And in the books, same with Bill. He dated Selah while supposedly in love with Sookie. So i dont have a problem with that part. I dont know i think i saw an arm, but i guess we have to wait and see.
Also, book Eric really didn’t change until after they spent time together in book 4, and the series isn’t up to that point yet. We’ll have to wait and see.
Yeah it was only the end of book 3 when we he started to have real feelings for her beyond just lust and curiosity. When he said “i hate having feelings” was the first indication and then book 4 changed him forever.
Exactly. Eric and Sookie still barely know each other. Everyone needs to take a breather and give it time. Eric and Sookie didn’t magically fall in love when they first met in the books either.
You can’t see it in this YT clip bc the very start is missing – but in the actual clip which you can view here:
http://hbo.plushms.mobi/TB/clip_desktop.shtml
Yvetta is very clearly hanging from a rack behind him. She is definitely there, they are definitely doing the nasty.
Thank you! Yup you can see her and though I agree “Eric” in the book is not what AB is turning AS into…this is still HOT!
While I agree with you for the most part SVB, Eric & Yvetta doing it in the nasty dungeon is very disturbing, but I think there could be more than what we are seeing. And also, as usual, maybe AB wants us to see this side of Eric because when it comes time for him and Sookie, it will be very different from what could be his norm or doing it in the dungeon with the skanks and whores. I do see your point though and it is quite hard to understand why Eric’s character has been changed to this. All I can say is, thank goodness for AS, who makes everything more bearable. He doesn’t have to be totally naked, I just enjoy watching him.
well i think to appreciate his metamorphosis, we need to see where he started off, and it has to be a slow gradual change to be believable
You know, in the books Eric didn’t start to change his ways until mid of book 3 (as in this season 3), because thats when Sookie has to work and interact with Eric and eventually brakes up with Bill. This is just the first episode on season 3, so give him some change girls
And on the show Sookie hasn’t been as friendly with him as in the books.
yep exactly. We havnt even gotten into book 3, so we have to be patient.
Exactly, plus let’s not forget in the books how Eric asked Sookie to help find Bill. He scared her a bit and mentioned torturing her to find out what she knows. So I’m just glad we don’t see anything even close to that on the show.
Yes Dee, this is very, very true. Even though he was not really going to do it, he did threaten her in order to get a reaction from her. I’m also glad they made that change. I guess AB took that scenario and changed it to DOD sex with another woman and deleted the threat made to Sookie – which if I had to choose, I prefer. As far as TB Eric is concerned, since that’s my only concern because to me the books are canon and separate, I definitely do think that DOD was not necessary when the same things could have been accomplished by him having sex in his office and or in a sex room in Fangtasia. However, after getting over the initial shock of it and after some wonderful posts by the Ladies on this board, I feel much better about it. I’m able to see why they did it and I really do feel that S3 looks promising.
I would’ve preferred for Yvetta and Eric to have been in the office and Eric come out alone so I understand. But I can get over this and move past it if there will be real development between E/S throughout the season.
Me too, Dee. See for me, I care about what TB Eric does on TB because I love TB Eric and I care about what Book Eric does because I love Book Eric. For me, one has no bearing on the other. What TB Eric does on screen does not effect what Book Eric does in the books and vice versa. Book Eric is still my beloved Book Eric and TB Eric is still my beloved TB Eric. This is what has allowed me to love both and what has kept me sane. I know that AB’s work is an adaptation and for all intents and purposes, a type of “fan fiction”. Putting that in perspective has allowed me to go along for the ride and love both equally. Anyway, that’s just me. lol I’m definitely not trying to push that on anyone and I respect everyone’s POV for sure. I just wanted to let you guys know what helps to keep me sane. lol
I agree with you totally
I love them both!
That wasn’t the same.
That scene in the books – the “workover” scene I call it – was about trying to find out what made her tick.
He was trying to get a reaction. He had no intention of torturing her.
He’d slipped into bed with her while she was still asleep for starters. Then when this convo started, he brought out the torture threat. Then not five minutes later he’s holding her hand and telling her how fond of her he is.
Then he’s whispering in her ear and trying to hit her on her again.
What we’re seeing on the show is making it very hard to redeem him. I’m not sure I even like him at this point.
There’s nothing wrong with having kinks. :\
It’s not about him having kinky sex.
Aw man. I’m so pissed off and frustrated tonight I think I’ll just sit on this for a while.
Just let it be known that it’s not what he’s doing. It’s HOW he’s doing it.
SVB, I completely understand how you feel. That’s why I was so devastated when I first realized this was going to happen. I think the best thing is to take time away from it – it really helps. I did that and now for me it’s not so bad. All I can say is wait until you’ve had a chance to watch the entire season. It may not be so bad in that context. Hang in there Hon. **Hugs**
Yep. If this is the real Eric, it’s a no go for me. The dynamic is that Eric is the honorable one and Bill isn’t. One has the appearance of virtue and the other actually has it. If it’s Sookie’s love is going to change Eric into a decent person, how is he any different than Bill?
I don’t think Eric was ever considered the “honorable” one and even if he was, I don’t think having kinky sex would change that.
Sorry, but I don’t understand what you mean that you never considered Eric honorable. You don’t think he always did right by Sookie, or do you think he was putting on an act around her like Bill? You don’t think he was a loyal, honorable sheriff to his queen?
As for the sex, the issue for me is what kind of person chains up someone they don’t know for 6 hours in a real torture chamber where they have ripped someone from limb to limb. That is not someone who is sexually open to experimentation and novelty. That is someone who has a serious kink who would be satisfied with vanilla sex with Sookie, no matter how much he thought he loved her. That is not something the love of a good fairy changes.
I totally agree with you… All you need to do is look at how he treated Ginger. You could have just killed her for witnessing LS death. But instead decided to keep her and just glamour the memories out.
And totally behind you on the DOD. It just doesn’t fit what we know about Eric and the difference between him and Bill… Doing what we think we see if a Bill thing IMO… see graveyard sex
No, but he was still a vampire and did things that most humans wouldn’t be capable of. TB vampires are very dark and sexual and that isn’t just limited to Eric. I just don’t see how this is any worse than him keeping Lafayette chained up in the basement.
We’re just going to have to agree to disagree on this, L. Lafayette and Royce were criminals he was dealing with in an official capacity as sheriff. I think AB has shown Eric in a much different light than Lorena and Bill.
I totally agree with you on this Renee. What we have seen Eric do, he did in capacity of sheriff (not saying he didn’t do some awful things in 1000 years but so far we haven’t seen him do anything remotely like Bill and Lorena).
I really dont think he has been having sex with that woman for 6 hours with her chained the whole time. He is not a sadist.
And I dont think Book Eric or TB Eric have done anything wrong or dishonorable to Sookie except trick her with the blood.
When Sookie says,”Here? Doing THIS for six hours?” I think the implication is that they have been in the dungeon that whole time. If Eric is being straight with Sookie, which I don’t think he is, then yes, he is a sadist, and that is the problem, IMO.
I saw it as in sayin “Doing THIS for six hours” she was simply talking about having sex for six hours not sex in chains for 6 hrs.
I don’t know if Yvetta would be able to take being chained up for 6 hours. Her arms are overhead, that’d be pretty painful, plus even kinky chained up sex in same position would get boring after 6 hours. I hope he meant fangtasia or that would be a bit much.
He might have said that they were there for six hours… Letting Sookie think whatever she wants… But meaning being at Fangtasia. Having the audition (which seemed very long) and after having time with Ybetta whatever they did, she might have danced for him before or did sex all over Fangtasia before going down… But the audition must have taked some hours of the six, they seemed pretty tired of it.
Renee, he wasn’t really down there with her for 6 hours. Sookie said that and he let he didn’t dispute it as a taunt and a tease.
Nah, I took it to mean he’d been at Fangtasia having sex with Yevetta for 6 hours, not necessarily in the DOD having sex for 6 hours.
I agree that when it came to vamp politics, Eric, was very honorable.
As far as the sex, again I don’t mind the chained up thing but will admit the location is undesireable. Although, even in the books they get turned on after just killing someone and even kiss Sookie right after, we’ve seen this more than once. But I think even Book Eric’s sex life was far from vanilla, so no matter what in comparison to her sex life, she was vanilla. He even mentioned in the books how he had been to orgies before and more than once, and I’m sure he participated. I can only imagine the other things he has done. But I think that sex with a person you love, well there is no comparison so thats why it was best to him like he says. So that’s why sex with Sookie is great even though his other sexual experiences were probably so very different than that he experiences with Sookie.
Again, not getting into the DOD sex because it’s a hot topic at the moment so I’m just gonna avoid this for now lol. But just wanted to respond to the whole vanilla sookie thing.
You’re right Renee and this is at least partly what is pushing my buttons. I can’t even formulate it into anything coherent right now but it’s just a mistake on so many levels. The other part I’m pissed off about is that not only is Sookie actually seeing it, but even worse, he is trying to hit on Sookie while Yvetta is naked and tied up behind him. IN FULL EARSHOT.
It’s not the fact that he’s having kinky sex. Big fucking deal. It’s the way he’s treating BOTH women in this scene.
That is not how Eric treats women. I don’t fucking care about all this “he’s a vampire, he’s badass, he’s jaded blah blah blah”. Yes, he is all of that. But he also has a sense of the morality of humans and Eric does not treat women like that. Everything about this scene is the antithesis of this character, at least the book character. This is not Eric. JUST NO. I wish Ball would just give him a different name because right now that’s the only thing these two versions have in common.
I agree completely SVB, which is why I don’t believe that was really what was going on. Time will tell, though, and I may have to eat those words.
If you have to eat these words Renee, and Sunny to eat hers for that matter, then AB and TB has lost me. AB would have screwed up Our beloved characters so much that he should have just changed their names…
And another thing.
For so long, we have argued that the basement was purely utilitarian. That it only existed as an extension of Eric’s role as sheriff.
Now that we see him use it for play, it kind of throws that whole debate open again.
I have never been comfortable with this whole dungeon issue and now I absolutely fucking loathe it.
This annoys me too. In the books Sookie is never exposed to Eric’s conquests (with the exception of Ginger in DUD), it’s pretty obvious he’s doing anything with a vagina but it’s kept away from Sookie. Book Eric is discrete which is the opposite of Book Bill (Donor in LDID, Lorena, Selah) and its what sets him apart from Bill.
If Sookie HAS walked in on Eric & Yvetta doing the nasty it’s not going to endear her to Eric at all, seeing a dancer chained up in a basement where he keeps prisoners in their own filth isn’t going to make her have fluffy feelings towards him or make her attracted to him.
Honestly, that fact is the ONLY thing that bothers me about this scene. But unfortunately, it’s a biggie.
I have no problem with kink, or sex dungeons– unless Yvetta is hanging from the ceiling with hooks in her skin, I don’t see a deal-breaking amount of fetishism there. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t even Eric’s idea… and if, like Jason Stackhouse, Yvetta mentioned her kink and he just happily indulged her, world-class sex abilities that he has.
HOWEVER… you don’t hit on another woman while the girl you’re CURRENTLY banging is right behind you. It’s disrespectful and slimy.
Of course, maybe– given the circumstances– we won’t see it as such a douche move in context. I mean, Yvetta clearly doesn’t have much in the way of modesty (I wouldn’t be surprised if she LIKED that someone was watching)– and I’d say it’s pretty understood that what they’re engaging in is as casual as it gets, thus I don’t see her being upset with him for expressing an interest in Sookie while she’s there.
As for SOOKIE, well… you know Pam probably warned her about going into that basement. Who does she think she is just busting down there whenever she feels like it, anyway? Maybe Eric was being “disrespectful” to her by not covering himself or Yvetta up when she came down– but she was disrespectful to HIM for barging in in the first place. I could see him thinking– “well, you wanted to come down here so badly, you deal with the consequences.”
Anyway, they’re BOTH pushing eachother’s buttons right now in a defiant and purposeful way… the dynamic is a departure from the one in the books, but it’s no less sexy in my opinion. So I think I can live with it, and will suspend my final judgment on the matter until I’m able to see the full scene in context.
I will add, though, that if Yvetta IS a spy like we predicted, Renee is totally right. Eric is a dumbass. But it only further alligns the parallels between his character and Jason’s… and like James Bond, looks like Eric’s Achille’s heel is is johnson. LOL.
*facepalm*
Presumably Yvetta knows what she’s getting into here, and her expectations are in line with that. Aside from the fact that TB Eric is starting to develop a clear case of small penis syndrome, it’s very hard for me to really nail down what is making me so uncomfortable. Perhaps a combination of things starting to add up. Everything that is going on in this scene, his calling in Lorena in Dallas, the bullet sucking…it’s all starting to paint a picture of someone who doesn’t really believe in their own power to attract what they want.
Oh I know BE is certainly capable of his fair share of manipulative behaviour – but TB Eric is starting to smell a bit desperate.
Ahem, typos: It looks like Eric’s Achilles’ heel is his johnson.
To add, it would be unfortunate if Eric was really that gullible… but as I mentioned a while back, everyone else in this show has been deceived by their sexual partner. It would only make sense that this season marks Eric’s turn.
{Oh I know BE is certainly capable of his fair share of manipulative behaviour – but TB Eric is starting to smell a bit desperate.}
I won’t argue with that, SVB. That’s why I hated him bringing in Lorena so much last season. I suppose his motives were thrown into question after he made the statement he did to Sookie about Bill mucking up rescue plans by killing everyone in sight.
But my first reaction was BEYOND negative. So I know what you mean.
That said, I don’t place this basement scene in Selah Pumfrey territory just yet. He didn’t parade Yvetta in front of Sookie’s face– Sookie crashed HIS little party. He’s not covering himself up because he has nothing to hide– and because he probably LIKES seeing Sookie squirm.
Also, I’m really interested in seeing all of the dirty details of this scene. It won’t be the first time we get an explicit look at kinky vampire sex– because we saw the video of Liam getting all nast with Maudette in season 1.
I find BDSM as hawt as the next freak, but I’ll be the first to say that the sex tape Maudette showed Jason was frightening and unsettling. As in totally NOT sexy.
I’m betting that we’ll see enough of Eric and Yvetta’s playtime to notice any differences between the two vampires’ sexual tactics. And I think (or rather, hope) the vibe will be TOTALLY different.
Case in point: We’ve already observed that Eric appears to be going downtown with Yvetta on his desktop. Hardcore sadists wouldn’t bother with such niceties. It defeats the purpose.
I think it will be clear that Yvetta WANTED to be tied up… and Eric obliged, furnishing her with an unforgettable evening in the process. He’s not being portrayed as some power-tripping mysogynist with a boner for torture… and I think that the difference between Eric and vampire like Liam will be laid out very clearly with the help of this scene.
Call me Pollyanna. LOL.
Again SVB, I agree with you. TB Eric clearly doesn’t have the confidence that BE has.
Yvetta has sex with ERic right after she meets him so she clearly is fine with casual sex and isnt expecting anything, as you said. Men lose interest if given something so easily so i doubt Yvetta expects anything, or she shouldnt at least.
And from what i saw, Eric wasnt hitting on Sookie. He knows that she wont respond to him. He was just stating that he wants what is Bills. That simple. He wasnt expecting her to respond to him, so i didnt see it as a come on. he knows she loves Bill. Maybe he wanted to see her reaction. But he wasnt trying to get into her pants.
Oh yes. I SO wish he had changed the name of the character. I wish he had left the character out all together. I WISH he had changed the names of ALL the characters (like he did with Maryann) and just written his own supernatural series. And I guess that is my main gripe and what annoys me about the TB appologists who make fun of the bookies. Fine! Take the spirit of the books, but leave CH’s beloved characters out of it! Have fun with the raping and chainsawing people apart (which we haven’t talked about yet, but THAT disgusts me more than anything else so far and I’m praying it’s at Franklin’s suggestion and not Pam’s)but leave the stories and characters I love alone!
As a bookie I understand where you’re coming from, and even though TB introduced me to the books in the first place, if it should happen I get so pissed off with the show that I wish it never happened, I will opt for a suggestion Sookie once made towards Bud Dearborn: “Luckily for you, no one is forcing you to watch.”
When I saw the promo for the show, in August I guess, I went out and bought the first book, then went out and bought all the other ones. By the time the show aired I had finished the series and was so excited for the show to premiere. I gave the first book to 4 of my friends who all went out and bought the set immediately after finishing it. And they, I know have turned their friends on to the books. Once series one ended I had other friends who went out and bought all the books.
I can’t imagine that the percentage of readers vs. viewers hasn’t changed. And I also think AB’s misguided assumption is the reason he was so surprised the Maryann story was very close to being universally hated.
I’m fairly new to this blog, but I love your point of view. I absolutely love CH books, and am saddened by the TB adaptation of them. The only way I’ve been able to handle watching TB is to think of it as a totally different story. CH has said as much on her website. Also, last season I watched an interview with Stephen Moyer where he stated that a huge majority of the TB viewers have never read the books. AB probably doesn’t care if he pleases the CH book readers. And, I could be really wrong, but I’d guess that most CH book readers would not likely be the kind of people who’d watch HBO TB to begin with-different demographics. I normally do not watch HBO, and was only drawn to TB because of the books. Anyway, I love your blog, and will hang with TB for another season, maybe.
I know I might get flak for this but Stephen Moyer is full of shit.
He said that because he knows in the books ASkars character is the hero and SM doesn’t want to know from losing his seat on the TB pedestal.
He has also said in that same interview that Eric is ‘the immoral one’ (*snort*) and recently in the season 2 resurrected vid that “he” meaning Bill (and not Sam)had “saved the town” from the maenad. He told some ladies from The Vault that they “would not fucking believe what ‘they’ are doing TO my character this season”.
IOW, SM has bought into the flimsy ‘hero’ designation Bill has been allowed to wear for the last two seasons.
That comment that Stephen Moyer made about how only 5% of the TB audience will ever read the books really annoyed me. I’m sure that Stephen believed that fact when he said it but I really don’t think that it is true now. I think HBO really underestimated their audience I have read numerous comments on many websites of fans of the show who went out and bought all of the books after first seeing the show and now they are expecting certain points and major plots to be included in the show and I think they will be very disappointed if what they have enjoyed in print doesn’t happen on screen.
I would really love to know how much an increase in sales the books have had since the show first aired I’d say the improvement is huge. I have seen ads for the books in mainstream publications and in supermarkets in my Country and their is no way without the success of the show that these books would be advertised and be on sale in such huge numbers without the show and I wouldn’t have bought the first one without first seeing True Blood.
The “book readers” excuse is my favorite lame LAME excuse. Alan claims the reason he’s veering from the books is because if he didn’t there would be no surprises. HOWEVER, if only, what do they say? 30% of the audience will have ever read the books, wouldn’t 60% of the audience be surprised at the stories from the books? LAME! And every time I hear it I see red! Arruugghh!
Oh right! It’s 5% which makes those excuses ever WORSE!!
SM did say that abou the viewers and the books but he said that like a year ago i believe. And book readers have gone up significantly since then, and its because of the show. So that statement is no longer accurate.
Aha. Everyone I introduced to the show who liked it wanted to read the books afterwards. One of my friends doesn’t even speak English that well and she borrowed them from me anyhow. Of course I can only speak for my little “circle”, but that is my experience.
Because I found TB after I’d read the books, I never considered how many others discovered the books after seeing TB! I wonder what these readers think about the books after first seeing TB? You all have great insights! I watch TB with a friend who hasn’t read the books, and pretty much stopped telling her when the show has deviated from the books.
I think there will be an evolution in Eric’s and Sookie’s characters. The reason why we haven’t seen it yet is because they haven’t had much contact. S3 is the first time they will work together and get to know eachother. I think we will start to see changes in Eric’s character and in their relationship starting now.
Also, in the books Eric has saved her skin several times before Book 3, and remember that fantastic exchange between the two of them, when she was scratched by the maenad, which of course couldn’t be in the show because AB changed the damn thing all around.
I’m not bothered by Sookie’s reaction in the clip, as why would she show Eric that any of that bothered her? Show him weakness? Nah, never. I do agree, that although he is being ironic, there is no sense of humor about him and THAT’s what bothers me the most. He just seems emotionless and grim. PLUS the freakin’ hair ARRRRUUUUUGGGHGHHHHHH! I don’t like TB Eric, I just don’t like him!
Why do you keep watching then? :\
Actually, I’m only giving it a few episodes this season, if it doesn’t get better I am done. I loved the fist season. But except for episodes 8 & 9 I thought last season was dreadful and the last 3 episodes with the exception of the hilarious 3 Stooges acting out “The God Who Comes” unwatchable. It was disappointing because I threw themed dinner/viewing parties all last season and after Episode 9 we were all pretty much over it. Not having the parties this season at all.
I agree. I hated the longitude of the Maryann storyline so much, and it seemed to me that almost nothing actually happened in the last three episodes. Also, if the ending actually played out the way we were shown and AB is not a genius after all… WTH.
Totally agree: If what we saw was real, and Sunny isn’t drinking the right Kool-aid right along with us then AB is really not what we think he is. It would be sad to think it. I really hope that one of the final Minisode will explain it better, because i can’t see the average viewer being able to reconcile what the saw LAST year with what is happening now. We are different tot he regular viewer, as we actually all give a damn about what we watch… and are not happy being screwed over. I know a few people have said (Bobsgran for one i can remember) that being strung along for this long is getting tiresome… i just hope we were messed with in the last season… AB needs to reveal himself
and please not in the naked him way (sorry man)
“and please not in the naked him way” LOL!
*nods heavily* The revelations have to come soon. If it goes on like this for a few more seasons, I am not dead, but gone :p
Kathy, I know exactly how you feel. I’m not excited about Season 3 at all. I loved the first season (it’s my favorite) and some of Season 2. It started off great then went downhill quickly, only to be somewhat redeemed with Godric coming into the show. I’m not getting my hopes up for S3 but I’ll watch it because I’m curious. If it sucks, it sucks and I’ll have learned my lesson. But I’m hoping it doesn’t suck because I’ll be terribly disappointed. The show is what got me into the books and if I don’t have the show to look forward to…
I still mourn the loss of the maenad apology. It’s the first time that we see Eric interested in what Sookie wants and making an effort to give it to her. What I like about the clip is Eric’s apparent wistfulness in admitting that he wants what is Bill’s and we also see the sense of duty that is central to his character IMO.
I love Eric’s LDID maenad apology:
“Angelic Sookie, vision of love and beauty, I am prostrate that the wicked evil maenad violated your smooth and voluptuous body, in an attempt to deliver a message to me.”
There hasn’t been much of THIS Eric in TB.
Yes, the fact that they excluded that was my first HUGE disappointment of S2.
okay, i have an “eric replacement” for you. well, it’s a friend of mine that kind of looks like the character is described, anyway. long blond hair, blue eyes, rather ripped, and he is a giant. 6 foot 5 i believe.
so, when you get upset over “the hair” just think of him, lol:
http://web.mac.com/jaredburnett/JAREDBURNETT.COM/PICTURES/Pages/Montana_USA.html#0
Sweet. I think that’s the best ‘Eric hair’ I’ve seen.
lol, i’ll pass along the compliment. i know the hair is for reals, he’s had it for as long as i’ve known him, which is 5 years i think. not too keen on the facial hair though, but that’s just me
he is an actor, but not like, a stage and screen kinda guy. he’s a cirque performer.
Your friend is hotter than Georgia asphalt in mid August. If they ever adapt SVM into films, he could totally carry the role of Eric
i used to have a veeeeery hard time even speaking to him in person, lol.
Yep. That’s exactly how I see Eric.
kathy, whenever i read your replies here re: the hair wtfery, i automatically think of Jared, lol, so I figured i would share
Your friend has the decidedly manly look I pictured for Eric (Of course I know ASkars looks like a man, too, but he has something “soft” about his face). I still don’t understand what was so hard about acquiring a non-roadkill wig, but maybe I’m just sad because I vastly prefer longer/long to short hair.
Though I’d already be happy if they stopped slicking back his hair. To me, he looked so much nicer in the dream sequence with Sookie.
very much agreed on the slicked back hair thing, it’s too shiney :/ and not touchable, lol.
He looks like somebody’s square Dad.
IMO that hairstyle doesn’t work on ANYONE, lol.
Amen Melody. ITA with everything you said. I directed a friend to the “secret” clip and yesterday she emailed me and said the clip is great but you’re right about the hair. And she doesn’t have the long-hair fetish I have.
It’s just not Wild Viking Hair
The first time we saw him with the new cut it wasn’t even as bad as later on. At least he had a sidepart then and not that mafia thing going on.
they worked together in season 2. or they were supposed to, if the stupid maryann plot hadn’t taken over the entire season. It is my opinion that in book 3 eric reveals to himself and sookie that he has feelings for her, in the “i dont like having feelings” line, and they hook up a bit after he gives her blood. but i think he actually starts to have feelings and become interested in her in book 2, going to dallas, the orgy, pink spandex! it really is the progression and THE HUMOR between eric and sookie that I wish TB had.
VikingLover I totally appreciate what you wrote previously, you can seperate TB Eric from Book Eric, and fortunately/unfortunately I think the characters/plots are so different to me now that I can separate them in my mind now too and I try to enjoy TB on its own for what it is.
And I don’t mean to complain…I would just love to see book eric’s character on screen.
ditto
{And I don’t mean to complain…I would just love to see book eric’s character on screen.}
Nah, you’re not coming off as complaining at all Hon.
I completely understand how you feel. However, once you separate the characters (if you can get to a place like that it is very freeing believe me!), you can appreciate them both. Book Eric is there on screen he’s just not as evolved yet as the one you are used to from the books. In the books he came to us “complete” in some ways. On the show, we are going to make that journey with him. Anyhooo, once you stop looking at him through the “book lens” you stop expecting certain things from him and you appreciate who he is on the show and you see that he is not a villian or a bad guy as they are “pretending” to portray.
Son of a b**ch! The penny just dropped. I thought I was being objective and separating BE from TBE, and I guess I wasn’t. Thanks VL. I feel stupid but much better.
sorry for the cussing.
I also think that if you compare Book Eric that we see throughout the entire series and now up to book 10 to this scene then yes some will be disappointed without a doubt. But if you just compare this scene to the scene in book 3 where they talk about bill being kidnapped then I think it would make it easier. I am just comparing those two scenes, Book version and show version(what we’ve seen in this scene only) besides the Yvetta thing, I like TBE’s reaction to bill missing and his reasons for finding Bill and also trying to keep sookie out of getting involved at first.
Absolutely right Dee. I can now look forward to S3. I was having a hell of time for what seems like ages.
I know, and I think we all just feel frustrated that in S2 we didn’t see Eric and Sookie have the friendship they did in book 2. Adding that with what we just saw just adds to it. I think after this scene though, all the other Eric and Sookie scenes look very promising. I really think we’ll see some of the changes we’ve been waiting for. I have a feeling most will be happy as we get deeper into the season.
Please don’t get me wrong. I enjoyed Six Feet Under as well. The first season is excellent.
I’m very good at keeping the books from the TV show separate. I tend to do that with all movie/book adaptations because no cross over is ever perfect. I’m definitely not saying that CH is a perfect writer, but her characters, as they are written, are full and didn’t need to change to suit TV. I was merely expressing my disappointment that Eric is not developed at all as a character on the TV show.
In all, now that the show is a success AB has not been keeping to the spirit of the characters in the books. The characters do things on the show that are so far from the spirit of the characters in the books that it’s ridiculous. And also now that the show is a success AB will continue to audience-coddle.
I’m gonna wait until S3 starts to see Eric’s character develop. Honestly, in the books not like the first 2 you see most of what there is to Eric. At least for me, you start seeing more of a change in book 3. Again, on the show it’s only been about 8 weeks or less so it’s understandable if we haven’t seen a major change in the characters. I think this season we will see a huge change in not just Eric but many of the characters. If they would’ve changed too early then wouldn’t have been too realistic after such a short time. If after this season, i don’t see more of book eric on the show then I’ll be annoyed. This is when I noticed a change in him so I expect to see it on s3.
Yes, Dee I agree. I think maybe when we watch it in full context it could be different, and maybe by the end of the season things will be different between them too. We will see him evolve and maybe the chemistry even one day resembles that of the books, but if I were Sookie, I’d have a hard time forgetting about this filthy basement romp.
I have a feeling that everything we’re going to discover about Bill in season three is going to make filthy basement sex look like mischievous boyish hijinx.
well her face wasn’t that of disgust, infact it was more shock to hearing he’s been having sex for 6 hours, maybe even a hint of being impressed. Also, like i said in another post yesterday, she is not one to judge. Nothing to do with Bill but just Sookie herself, she had graveyard sex and didn’t mind at all. I think if she can be fine with that then she can’t judge him. If she does, I personally would think she is a hypocrite.
Yeah Sookie didnt seem shocked or disgusted at all by what she was seeing. And she isnt experienced at all in the sexual dept. Remember her reaction to Laffy’s furry handcuffs? So i dont know the scene may not be what it seems, or maybe Sookie is more open minded than we thought.
She’s had sex in a graveyard, covered in dirt. I think she knows what vampires are into.
she has also “seen” lots of peoples fantasies
Alright, valid points. lol.
I think I’m going to back Renee’s theory that they aren’t fornicating down there, I sure hope they aren’t, it would make me feel better if they kept it open ended at least, but.. she knows Lafayette was tortured down there, its the stygma of the place, not just the dirt.
When we see her doing someone on the kitchen floor next to the fridge where Gran died, maybe then I will let it go. lol.
In the book 4 she did have sex with Eric in the kitchen on the table if I remember correctly
Yes, but not the floor.. lol.
well if yvetta is tied up and standing then they didn’t have sex on the floor either, they had sex standing lol. Sorry just trying to make light of the situation.
lol. what I should have said was, I’m holding grudge until they have sex in the kitchen. lol.
I know I was jk sorry lol. I just see a lot of emotions on here tonight and I understand both sides, nobody is wrong for how they feel. I’m just gonna wait because I just have a feeling I’ll love TB Eric this season so I’m hoping I’m not wrong. I’m annoyed with some things i’ve been seeing but also love other things but also we don’t know everything yet. I hope everyone on here will be happy with Eric this season. Luckily we have just 3 more weeks to start finding out.
I think this season we will see a huge change in not just Eric but many of the characters. If they would’ve changed too early then wouldn’t have been too realistic after such a short time.
Agreed. That’s why I believe this scene in episode 1 is going to be more important to the story than we initially think. Character evolution is only believable if you set up contrasts to show the change. It’s funny, because in this scene Eric’s fangs are not out but in the bedroom scene with Sookie they are. Hmmmm, guess Yvetta isn’t that much of a turn on for him.
Oops! I was wrong about the fangs. Just saw a slow-mo of the bedroom scene and he isn’t fanged out there either.
Carry on!
As I watched the promo clip…I wasn’t bothered by the off-screen bondage or the fact that the pervfest was taking place in the DOD. To be sure, the sanitation issues were a little off-putting (but then again, I’m completely skeeved out by the idea of using someone else’s toothbrush.) That being said…I’d do the deed in the filthy basement with the Viking. I guess I’m just a slattern of low moral character
Yeah i dont get it i mean Yvetta obviously wanted to do it. He wouldnt force her. So whats the problem really. I mean if shes fine with the basement scenario then who are we to judge.
im in the depraved category too, perhaps SVB can post a poll
LOL. Put me in that category, too.
Yes, time for a poll!
So many ideas!
1. I hate his hair. First it was that cheap wig, then the haircut, now BROWN short hair. Crap.
At least when we got used to S2′s hair, he looked good.
2. It all belongs, in theory, to CH. But it looks like her lawyers weren’t as good as S Meyer’s lawyers in getting her artistic control. So AB has free rein.
3. I thought there were sex rooms and cells in the basement, or is that from various fan fictions. Sometimes I get them confused.
4. This is AB’s fan fiction. We just don’t get feedback from him when we leave reviews. I don’t think he cares.
There’s just 3 more weeks to go. As much as AB pisses me off with his characterizations, I’m looking forward to the season, and what he will do with it. There’s some FF that aggravates me too, but I still follow it out of curiosity with the author’s imagination.
Personally, I think they should hire Terri Botta & Ericizmine to write scripts.
Sweet, I am now even more excited about the new season (as if that was even possible)!