Hoyt & Jessica – Tough Times Ahead

Ausiello returns (finally) with some more spoilery tidbits for season 4.

On Hoyt and Jessica:

Rumor has it Season 4 will not be kind to my favorite Blood duo. Actually it’s more fact than rumor since Alan Ball just confirmed for me via email, “The honeymoon’s over.”

I love Jessica and Hoyt, but I’ve never had a good feeling about these two – and I’ve consistently said that Jessica is doomed by virtue of the shining example provided by her maker, and will most likely meet a sorry end. I don’t believe she will be a permanent fixture for the remainder of the series, as much as I would love to be wrong.

This does not bode well.

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158 comments to Hoyt & Jessica – Tough Times Ahead

  • Serena

    IMO she’s dead in the first 15 minutes of episode 1. :P

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    AShley Reply:

    Agreed…it’s her or Hoyt…one of them will go. That’s what i think anyways.

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    AShley Reply:

    Actually I really think it will be Hoyt. What if his mom tries to shoot Jessica and he jumps in front of the bullet..does he know that a gun can’t kill a vampire?…I’ve heard the Bubba theory too, but that would be hard to pull off I think..I just can’t picture Hoyt as a vampire I guess LOL.

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    Serena Reply:

    I’ve been thinking about the logistics of this scene for awhile, lol, I think Hoyt prob does know that, but I don’t think Jessica is that slow that she’d allow him to take the bullet.

    I also don’t think Jessica won’t sense (either hear or see) the bullet coming, -Frankie’s death provided the fact that there is a distance the vampire can’t overcome when it comes to wooden bullets, and granted he was shot up close with a shotgun while Maxine bought a hunting rifle.. Jessica still might be thinking its a normal bullet and be unable to recognize the bullet type at the same moment she’s aware of it. It’s the Wooden Bullet Velocity Conundrum. LOL.

    That being said, I think Maxine has to aim for Hoyt to bait Jessica into it.

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  • LLE

    I doubt they will kill Jessica and every couple has problems and they will breakup and get involved with other people like every character does in soap land. Jessica is very popular character and AB is not going to kill her off.

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    Serena Reply:

    IDK, this isn’t your normal soap opera-y show & Ball doesn’t seem the type to me to be swayed by popular opinion, but the type that would flaunt his creative freedom by killing a character .. one of his own making nonetheless.

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    LLE Reply:

    When he does killed it would be the last season. Every couples on soap have problems and if they don’t have problems it would be boring. I can see Jessica getting involved with Tommy and that why that brought the character on to get involved with Jessica.

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    brooksfamily423 Reply:

    OHHHHHH….I have not heard the speculations about “Ericbob” or the mystery around Beel’s clock.

    ***places elbows on knees and tents fingers****

    Explain

    ;)

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    Serena Reply:

    Yeah but where are they to go from where they are right now? Its only going to be a cycle of ‘I can’t be with you because your a vampire and my mom hates vampires but I love you, blahblahblah.’

    Something has to give in the dynamic of their relationship, I think if they were to break up again and again THAT would be boring.

    Jessica dying, especially Jessica dying in order to save Hoyt , would do a few things to the current events (ie give QSA an unexpected advantage in her fight with Bill) and it would also lay the ground for foreshadowing of certain other people taking bullets for loved ones, as well as to highlight yet another loss of Compton’s. He’ll have not just nothing, but absolutely nothing. No GF, no surrogate daughter, no maker,.. nothin’

    … except his long lost great granddaughter he may have an affair with. :lol:

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    LLE Reply:

    If Jessica was killed, Bill would not care if she live or die and that not much of a story if Jessica was killed. CH loves the character of Jessica and wished she created her and I can’t see AB getting rid of the character of Jessica. Jessica was supposed to be in two episodes and AB loved the character of Jessica and that why she still on the show. AB does shock stories and Jessica being killed would not be a shock story because most of the characters would not care if she lived or die. Sookie and Hoyt would be upset but the other characters would not care.

    I doubt Jessica will be killed this season. There more a story keeping Jessica live than killing her.

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  • kelly1981

    i really like Jessica as a character, but i do feel the scary-ass doll in lst season’s finale was a bit of an omen. the shit will hit the fan and i think someone, not necessarily Jessica or Hoyt, will die. this will strain the relationship or cause Jessica to have to leave/never see Hoyt (at least for half the season. as much as i would love to see them settle down together and show Bill how happy works, it just don’t happen on tv.

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  • Katee

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they did kill her off in season 4, but that doesn’t mean I won’t cry about it. I heart Jessica.

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  • ESFAN08

    I dont see Jessica being killed off atleast not this Season. I cant say tho if AB may not kill her off by the end of the Series, but I dont see it happening this Season. However by the Season 3 Finale w/Maxine purchasing a Steve Newlin Gun clearly to kill Jessica with, an with the creepy Baby Doll appearing on the Floor in Hoyt/Jessica’s new Home makes it look like one of them will die. I think either Maxine or even Summer will shoot Jessica only Hoyt will jump in front of her before Jessica can react, an take the bullet, an he will die before Jessica can bring him back. My other Theory tho Jessica will bring Hoyt back only maybe cuz of Jessica being so young something goes wrong, an he ends up like Bubba. I only say this cuz Jason has called Hoyt Bubba on numerous occasions at this point. So whether Hoyt or Jessica die, or Hoyt becomes a Bubba their Relationship is over. I really liked these 2 Characters together, but I dont see them having a future together. I think AB might have Jessica go dark, an having Hoyt killed off by his own Mother, or Hoyt ending up like Bubba would cause her to go very dark.

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    LLE Reply:

    Jason has called Andy Bubba too. It’s a southern thing to call people Bubba. I doubt Jessica would be killed because Jessica and Pam are the most interested women vampires on the show. Jessica is a hoot.

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  • i think her demise is imminent

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  • Ericrocks

    I think Maxine will try to shoot Jessica and then Hoyt will be shot instead. Jessica will attempt to turn Hoyt in order to save him, but the process will go terribly awry. We will end up with Bubba-Hoyt, so Eric-Bob needs to be really careful aroung Bon Temps. ;)

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    Ericrocks Reply:

    **around**

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    SVB Reply:

    I’ve heard this theory doing the rounds today…it makes me cry to think Hoyt ending up like that. How fucking tragic would that be?? :(

    And Jason calling Hoyt “bubba” in earlier seasons is now making me nervous. I know this is a southern term, but it’s also the name of a messed up vampire and I just don’t want to see that :(

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    Krtmd Reply:

    And yet another example of a vampire lesson that Bill failed to impart on Jessica.

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    Mony Reply:

    I remember Jim Parrack (Hoyt) sayin’ in an interview after S3 Finale that Hoyt’s destiny probably wouldn’t be totally human…. so im wondering what that could mean right now, if he will be some kind of Bubba or others creatures too.
    Reading the interview i had the vibe he was talking about witches but it was too soon to thell since it was summer only.

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    LovetheViking Reply:

    Agree totally that Hoyt will become a Bubba character like the books. Jessica will try to turn him when he takes a bullet for her and it somehow goes wrong.

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    Vampy Reply:

    Just an idea, but isn’t his destiny not totally human since he met Jessica? I mean his realtionship is not human.

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    Selle Reply:

    I’ve been expecting Hoyt to be turned into a vampire for two seasons and now I really think it could happen with “loose cannon Maxine” gunning for trouble. Hoyt as a vampire would probably be Bubba-like only in that he might refuse to drink human blood and would drink animal blood and TruBlood, just like the books’ Bubba. This would serve to show that Bill didn’t have to drink human blood if he was so opposed to it all those years before TruBlood was introduced. It would give dramatic change to Hoyt and Jessica’s relationship, increase Maxine’s rage (which would eventually give way to confused acceptance), and would allow Hoyt and Jessica’s storylines to be faded out to a tertiary support-only role, thus centralizing the plots more around Sookie/Bill/Eric and the 4 main supporters Jason/Sam/Tara/Laffy. But, this is probably my wishful thinking surfacing, wherein I’m hoping to see a tighter storyline which centers more closely around the cast Principals.

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  • Boo

    I wouldn’t want to see Bubba Hoyt either. It would be sad though cuz they seemed like the only vamp – human couple that might have actually had a relatively “normal” relationship.

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  • NorthernSoul

    If anything happens to either Hoyt or Jessica, my heart will break. I’m preparing myself for the worst, but I do love those two and their storyline. If they’re going to kill off a character we love…then how ’bout taking out Arlene, or Crystal her inbred brother-cousins? I say for every good character killed off, a dud should follow!

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  • FaninAL

    Hoyt and Jessica have never had a HEA feel to them, much like Bill and Sookie. I won’t bet on their life expectancies, but their relationship has always been doomed.

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  • AShley

    Okay, so changed my mind again LOL. I DO think it will be Jessica that dies. I mean although she’s a favorite it would be a shocker and she has lasted three seasons even though she’s not from the books. That’s longer than any other non-book character. They usually die.

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    Vampy Reply:

    And who says that someone dies here?

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    Serena Reply:

    “The honey moon is over.”

    So its fair to speculate in which way is it over.

    Maxine also bought a gun at a Steve Newlin approved anti-vampire store, the most logical deduction is someone might die.

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    Vampy Reply:

    Not really.

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    Katee Reply:

    Don’t forget the creepy broken doll symbolism.

    There is also the fact that Deborah Ann Woll is a break out young star with possibly a brilliant career ahead of her. There is no reason for her to be tied to TB indefinitely. She may want to stretch her wings.

    Plus, where else can the Hoyt/Jessica relationship really go from here? They break up and make up again? Boring. I don’t see that. It would be repetitive.

    It isn’t crazy to think some one is going to get shot. I am sure Maxine didn’t buy that gun just to stare at it. Although some people theorize that she is going to go to Bill’s, see red hair and shoot the queen thinking she is Jessica.

    Anything is possible.

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    Serena Reply:

    I doubt that Maxine will successfully shoot QSA though, even if she does choose the wrong red headed target. I don’t think I would buy it if a 500 year old vamp doesn’t hear or see the bullet coming, and in this scenario with no one to save… though oddly Bill’s front windows were open. I checked, lol.

    In that case, I’d bet either Maxine and Bill run around the house pinned down by a sniper or they extricate themselves out the back, scene over. But it doesn’t resolve any Hoyt’s issues with his mom or even suggest any way shape or form for the honey moon to be over. Just that Bill survives for another day. Shrug.

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    Katee Reply:

    I am not a big fan of the “Maxine shoots the Queen by mistake” theory. I just threw it out there as an example of different things people are thinking. It would be a cop out and a cheesy way to have Bill “win” the fight when he should get a well deserved smack down. Better to keep the Queen around for future book related story lines.

    Bon Temps is a small town. I think Maxine would be informed of just where and with whom Hoyt is shacking up. My personal belief is that it will be Hoyt or Jessica on the wrong end of that gun.

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    Serena Reply:

    Yeah me too,.. its like the Weres kidnapping Bill in S3, sometimes the most obvious outcome is the outcome. Unfortunately.

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    SVB Reply:

    Yeah I’ll be pretty annoyed if they go the Maxine offing QSA route as well. Though I’m racking my brain to think of a way Bill is going to get himself out of this otherwise.

    Traitorous prick probably already called someone from the Authority and they’re just waiting to pick her up.

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    Katee Reply:

    I am hoping the Queen womps him good and then gives him an opportunity to make up for his insubordination by taking on a top secret mission in Peru. ;)

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    Ashley Reply:

    I don’t think they will do the Maxine shoots the Queen thing. Would she really try to aim through the window? Also, she’d have to be not only an awesome shot but extremely lucky to get QSA in the heart with the bullet from a distance without her sensing it. That said, it may be enough of a distraction for the Queen that Bill has a chance he wouldnt normally have to kill her. But, I doubt it. I am guessing she does show up at Jessica and Hoyt’s house with the gun.

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    Katee Reply:

    Ugh. About that QSA and Beel fight theory…. Spoilers….http://true-blood.net/2011/01/07/bill-compton-vs-queen-sophie-anne-it-will-be-epic/ Blerg.

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    Ashley Reply:

    Just posted the interview in the forum under Season 4 spoilers if anyone wants to read it…not liking the way it sounds either regarding the Bill vs. the Queen fight.

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    Vampy Reply:

    Thinking about a scenario that ends them breaking up…who says it means they break up?

    Honeymoon may be over, but perhaps not their relationship?

    could also be the case. That they have to go through hell together in this season. But together. Who knows?

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    AShley Reply:

    Its not for sure, obviously. But since the body count last season finale was very low…Calvin Norris…Im thinking people are gonna die right off the bat…start the season off with a bang. And it will definitely be one of the more minor characters if it does happen. Plus, the creepy doll we saw in the house Jessica and Hoyt were going to move into was obviously a bad omen.

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    Vampy Reply:

    I really hope. Jessica is my most favorite character and i worried a lot she might die in the future of the series and right after that this spoiler comes. Thats not fair, especially seeing how many months we have to wait. And i always worry like there is no tomorrow and seeing that my favorite chars on tv shows always end dying…but i don’t get used to it.

    Can i have a favorite char that does not die at least THIS time? :(

    But on the other hand, if it really means one of them is dying and it should be a shocker…would have AB said something like this? Because then it would be no shocker any more.

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  • dsm

    Bill’s story is really a tragedy if you think about it. He’s conflicted about his vampire nature. He had, well, a totally F’ed up maker who left him ill prepared for the world around him and for being a maker. His story is almost incomplete if they don’t show the tragedy cascading to his offspring. I just can’t see how they can avoid giving Jessica’s character a tragic arc of some sort. The fact that we all love her is only going to make it a more heartbreaking and more powerful story.

    They’ve created two very different vampire families – one dysfunctional(Lorena/Bill/Jessica) and one loving and supportive (Godric/Eric/Pam). I think AB feels that Jessica, unfortunately, was just born into the wrong the family and despite her best efforts she’ll suffer because of that.

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    SVB Reply:

    They’ve created two very different vampire families – one dysfunctional(Lorena/Bill/Jessica) and one loving and supportive (Godric/Eric/Pam). I think AB feels that Jessica, unfortunately, was just born into the wrong the family and despite her best efforts she’ll suffer because of that.

    Exactly. I feel like it doesn’t really matter what Jessica does, what choices she makes, she is going to be a victim of the fact that she drew badly in the daddy lottery – just like she did in her human life.

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    Doute Boule Reply:

    I agree with your familial analogues,but I think Maxine will end up shooting Hoyt when he throws himself in front of Jessica to protect her. Jess already knows you cannot bring back the fully dead from her truck driver experience,so my thought is she will not try to bring Hoyt back but will drain Maxine and Summer and go rogue. This along with Russell’s TV appearance will precipitate all the protests and filming of vamps feeding on humans. IMO, once Eric recovers; he or Pam will be required to “put Jessica down.” JMO-that is how I would write it if I were a writer.

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    SVB Reply:

    Oh I like this. You’re right, Jessica does know better than to try to bring back the dead. Rogue Jessica…I like this alot.

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    Doute Boule Reply:

    Poor Jess, like the abused child that turns serial killer, Hoyt’s death could be the stressor that pushes her over the edge and begins a Bundy like rampage. I can picture a Sociopathic or Psychopathic Jessica developing an MO and victim type (Women who hate vampires) Look out Arlene and Sarah. Probably will not happen but it could be good.

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    hime Reply:

    I agree with DB, in my personal season 4 Jessica will go rogue because Hoyt’s death will drive her nuts. The Maxine shoots Jessica is still an option, but what bugs me in this theory (apart from the fact that I adore Jessica and would be very unpleased if she dies) is that Jessica had a very low profile s3 arc. I mean: except for the first 3-4 episode, she did basically nothing besides flirting with Tommy and reconcile with Hoyt.
    I think the writers know she has some potential as a character and they will finally give her a STORY.
    Plus, Jessica going rogue is a highly dramatic development – because we grew to be very fond of her – and not to mention, it will parallel Bill’s experience and personality.

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    Skarlove Reply:

    I agree with all of this – DAW’s talents can be put to much better use by letting the viewer witness Jessica’s entire evolution – from whiny and abused human teen and early vampire, to her first glimpse of true love and the maturity that comes along with the responsibility of caring for someone more than yourself, all the way to the same tortured fate as her “grand-sire’s”.
    That girl was screwed from the day she was born, and being turned by the worst maker ever would never be able to change that.

    Hmm – if Hoyt were shot and near to death and Jessica turned him, Bill might be so crazed with latent sexual jealousy he could stake Jessica’s new progeny! Stating all the while: “Jessicaah, you ahr nawt readeh for this step. You cannawt cawtrol youah OWAN ahctions. Ah weeel have to put DAHWN this rahbid DAWG you hahve brought uphawn youahself. Ah am OHNLEH thinking of YOUAH safeteh. STAKE.

    I think that could piss the girl off enough to turn her into a complete berserker? She’s already been released, but Bill could be thrown into another tizzy of misogynistic Lorena lust/hate that he could freak and kill the one thing that could ever truly make Jessica happy. Between this and sheer genetics of their line, it’s a recipe for disaster any way you slice it.

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    dsm Reply:

    On the subject of Bill having released Jessica. I’ve always interpreted that as a selfish act on his part. The bond between maker and child binds them together and enables the maker to mentor the child to maturity. Releasing of a child seems like it should be an act a maker takes when they are confident that the child is ready to make their own way in the world. Bill released Jessica because he didn’t want to be bothered with the real work of raising a child. He presents it as an altruist act, but in truth it is a disservice to Jessica. And it has sealed Jessica’s fate IMO.

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    Skarlove Reply:

    Oh, completely DSM! What he did was selfish abandonment, pure and simple. He pretty much washed his hands of ANY future responsibility in her outcome by saying – “Well, you’re ready for adulthood! You’re unfit for any happy future relationships, but at least we had glamour graduation.”

    I just can’t shake this twinge of inappropriate sexual attraction on Bill’s part.

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    SVB Reply:

    Damn straight, dsm. Agree with every word.

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    LKC Reply:

    Well in Charlaine’s world the maker and child can and do have sex and it’s not inappropriate! Wouldn’t it be great IF AB went there with Jessica and Bill? Boy, that would put the BL’s panties in a wad!

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    sunnynala Reply:

    Wouldn’t it be great IF AB went there with Jessica and Bill?

    IMO, it’s already happened.

    As for Bill releasing Jessica, if it’s not a vamp crime to release an infant vamp it should be. It’s incredibly irresponsible, even malicious, as it seems akin to leaving a human infant on the street hoping someone will pick it up. It exposes the child to untold dangers. I can’t wait to see Eric’s reaction when he finds out.

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    LovetheViking Reply:

    DB I like your thinking. The idea of a rouge Jessica is not something I had considered, but I think it has really potential and would help to explain how the situation with there being more anti-vampire protestors.

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    SVB Reply:

    Maybe Bill’s “Schlong of Humaniteh” can cure Jessica of her perpetual virginity.

    Just a thought :)

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    Serena Reply:

    Bwhahahahaha!! So that’s what he named it. :lol:

    jayetea Reply:

    ZOMG, SVB!!!!!!!!!! Hysterical! Well, you know, since Eric has the “Gracious Plenty”, it’s only fair for Beehl to have the “Schlong of Humaniteh”!! That is both classic and priceless and deserves it’s own fanfiction. You really need to write that!!!

    Millarca Reply:

    Oh that’s disgusting. I don’t want to think about Bill’s schlong. I bet it’s a schlort anyway. Schlort and bumpy, and maybe bent.

    SVB Reply:

    OMG! *cries* :lol:

    Serena Reply:

    LOL, Millarca, LOL.

    Schlort indeed. :lol:

    Ashley Reply:

    Thats the thing about Bill. He always presents everything as an altruistic act, when really it’s something completely different. For example, glamouring Olivia after he fed from her (the old lady on oxygen) to believe her son had come visit her. That could have bad consequences, but Bill told himself he was doing the right thing, when really it’s quite the opposite.
    Same with Jessica…definitely not the right thing to release a baby vamp into the world because you don’t want to deal with her when he’s taught her nothing bu the basics of glamouring (because this was before he taught her the basics of fighting). He’s never wanted to deal with her or teaching her. She didn’t even know how to feed, and she doesn’t know the consequences of many things that she should know.

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    SVB Reply:

    She certainly doesn’t know how turn someone successfully, that much is for sure. She didn’t know how to feed without killing someone – OH SHIT, dad’s not home again…better ask PAM!. She doesn’t know how to cover her kills – shit, better ask PAM again!

    On top of everything he DOESN’T tell her or teach her, his sanctimonious BULLSHIT about how she must drink TB when he’s sucking Sookie dry at every opportunity, and how they must nawt react to the haters – even if it is aganst our nay-tya!! just makes me want to slap him. Where the hell does he get off? He goes around eating people, KILLING people (no Bill, I haven’t forgotten about Bartlett) and syphoning off his walking blood bag to his hearts content, and he presumes to appoint himself Jessica’s moral compass??

    Fuck off Compton.

    Wow, I think I needed to get something off my chest :lol:

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    LKC Reply:

    WOW SVB you must have been lurking at the Nest of Vipers and overloading on St. Bill

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    SVB Reply:

    Something like that LKC ;)

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    Ashley Reply:

    Don’t worry, I feel the same way LOL. I couldnt believe it when he told her she had to drink TB!! Yeah, like you do Bill? With your fairy blood supply, admittedly the most delicious blood you’ve ever tasted, there to satisfy you at any moment. Please, don’t make me laugh. So while Bill gets to feed off sookie Jessica must be confined to TB…comparable to forcing her to be a vegan while he’s chowing on steaks every night. And doesn’t even try to tell her she’s worthy of Hoyt, just agrees with her assessment of their relationship…doesn’t even try to make her feel better about herself and offer her any of the advice or warnings she actually needs. Instead, he just forces his messed up idea that vamps have to be self loathing and be something they’re not onto her. It pisses me off just as much as you SVB. Jessica doesn’t deserve that.

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    Ashley Reply:

    Not to mention the fact that Bill NEVER was only drinking TB. He had every intention of feeding off Jerry in ep. 3(?) of season 1, and admitted to Sookie that he would have fed off the cop if she hadn’t been there. And two episodes later, they were a couple. So yeah, he was never only drinking true blood, or if he was it was a matter of days.

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    jayetea Reply:

    That is a really good point, Ashley. I had forgotten about Jerry and the cop! Bill really is the worst maker ever!!

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    Renée Reply:

    I agree Skarlove. It would be a waste to kill off Jessica at this point. She either needs to go off the deep end and follow in her father’s footsteps or overcome his influence and that of her human family. We know which makes for more entertaining tv. ;)

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  • Vampy

    Amazing.

    There is just a little spoiler from AB which could mean anything in this story, and people act like it is certain that one of them will die.

    and i thought i’m pessimistic.

    If they kill off Jessica, i’ll stop watching for sure.

    But she is to popular to be killed off.

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    SVB Reply:

    Why do people think that Ball won’t kill off popular characters? It’s odd. Of course he will. And this show is SO far overdue for a cull it’s not even funny.

    The cast is totally bloated, and that’s been a complaint of viewers and critics alike.

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    Vampy Reply:

    Great idea, why not kill Eric then? :D

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    Katee Reply:

    Jessica isn’t anywhere near as important to the story as Eric is. Eric is a main character in the books. Jessica is a character Ball created. She is expendable.

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    Vampy Reply:

    Probably neither of them dies. They are both regulars in Season 4 and so it would not happen in the beginning, and if AB spoilers something for the end?

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    NorthernSoul Reply:

    If they kill Eric, they kill the show. I agree with Katee about Jessica; She is a beloved character, but totally expendable. Eric, Sookie & Bill (though many would disagree with me about Billy) are not.

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    SVB Reply:

    Vampy – you are obviously trying to get a reaction from someone and it’s not on.

    You’re welcome to join the discussion if you have something constructive to add. Two word responses are not constructive and my three year old can do better than that. If you’re here to troll, you can piss off…now.

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    Katee Reply:

    “Why do people think that Ball won’t kill off popular characters? It’s odd. Of course he will. And this show is SO far overdue for a cull it’s not even funny.”

    Definitely overdue for somebody major to be killed off. The cast is very bloated and there is not a lot of suspense in bringing in new characters just to kill them with in one season like Talbot, Daphne or Franklin. Remember the first seasons of Lost where it felt like no one was safe and a major character could be taken off the show at anytime? True Blood could use just a little bit of that.

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    AShley Reply:

    @Vampy
    I don’t know if you’ve watch Ball’s other works, but I have, and he does not shy away from killing popular or even main characters….in his other show Six Feet Under, he killed a main character, and not in a season or series finale either. He obviously will not kill characters that still at this point are alive in the books. Jessica is his creation, which makes her all the more likely to die at some point since Ball seems to like doing that sort of thing. It’s all just speculation though obviously we don’t know for sure.

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    Vampy Reply:

    But i think she is his favorite non book character. As someone said, she was planned to be just in 2 or 3 episodes at the beginning, but AB liked her so much that he kept her.

    I have not seen Six Feet Under. But i know what you mean. But in one way i have the feeling he would not do this to Jessica, as she is a unique character. OK, all of them are unique in one way, but for a vampire in this series. She is the “normal” part.

    And as said in a comment before, i can’t imagine he brings this shocker and “announces” it in a spoiler months before.

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    Ashley Reply:

    I see what you are saying and it’s just speculation. But he has to kill some people off this season, and really the only possibilities I see are Arlene, Terry, Hoyt, Jessica, and the new characters. I would through Lafayette into the mix but since he’ll most likely be necessary to the storyline next season, that makes me doubt that.
    Its not like we want Jessica to die. I would much prefer Arlene…actually that’s another good possibility since in the books her character just disappears if I remember correctly..she just stopped getting mentioned.

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    Vampy Reply:

    I know i know, but if one of them really dies, would he have said this comment on their story? I mean if he wants a shocking death, he would have ruined it now then, because of course everyone speculates with a death and no one would be surprised then.

    And i would not say he has to kill characters, there are more ways to write people off than killing them. Sadly not used in todays tv shows.

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    Ashley Reply:

    I don’t know. Sometimes AB says obvious things and sometimes he doesn’t, there really doesn’t seem to be a pattern. She may not die, but there will be trouble for sure with that creepy doll they focused on in the house.

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    Vampy Reply:

    Oh and don’t forget that she and Pam are the only female vampires. It would just be boring to just have one left. As most movies and tv shows always are having to much male vampires and barely female ones in the regular cast.

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    SVB Reply:

    To be fair, he didn’t give away that he was going to kill anyone. And the idea that Jessica will bite the dust is hardly new – many of us have thought this for quite a long time. It’s not like he ruined anything.

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    Vampy Reply:

    If she or Hoyt dies he would have ruined it with these words for sure. Because with this, it is very obvious something very dramatic will happen, however.

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    Ashley Reply:

    yeah i think some of us started seeing that as a possibility even before the season 3 finale.

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    SVB Reply:

    I’ve been saying it since season 2! She just has tragic victim written all over her. Her human story, her sweet personality, her turning….I feel like Ball’s going to poke her with sticks forever :(

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    Vampy Reply:

    He can as long as he let her stay on the show. Nothing against dramatic turns or storys for her, but please not kill her off, i would definetely miss her to much. :(

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    Ashley Reply:

    Oops, yeah I meant SEASON 2 FINALE..not season 3. Bill’s been such a bad maker to her and hasn’t really given her much info or taught her much of anything except a little of how to fight and basically agree she doesn’t deserve Hoyt. It hasn’t looked good for a while. For me I think it really started when she attacked Hoyt’s mom.

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    MASpencer Reply:

    I TOTALLY wanted Hoyt to have to choose between Jessica and Maxine when she attacked her in season 2. I mean, staking your girlfriend to save your evil mother? It’s deliciously Freudian– and I’m still sore over the writers not going there.

    Because, you know, I’m a heartless bitch like that. :lol:

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    SVB Reply:

    You are! :lol:

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    SVB Reply:

    Arlene went to jail in DAG…she’s still there.

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    Ashley Reply:

    OHHHH, okay. I just forgot that I guess. Oops. But either way she’s gone right? Never liked her character in the books. The show character is a little better, but still annoying.

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    SVB Reply:

    Yeah she’s gone and I doubt she’ll ever be back. Book Arlene was fucking AWFUL. Nasty, nasty piece of work. Good riddance. I think she’s a bit more likeable on TB.

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  • MASpencer

    I’m not sure that either is going to die– although I do see DOOM written all over that relationship, in one way or another, so it’s more than possible.

    But here’s my guess du jour, as if you all didn’t see it coming: When we catch up with Jess and Hoyt next, the “honeymoon” will LITERALLY be over. As you know, I’m still clinging to the possibility of a major time warp– during which Hoyt and Jessica will have tied the knot (human/vampire marriage being legal and all).

    When we see them again (months or years down the road), things aren’t going well– either because something or someone intervened to tear them apart again, or because their Romeo and Juliet relationship just isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.

    Or something like that. :lol:

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    Ashley Reply:

    MASpencer, Ive been on board with the time jump from day one…now how long is up for debate, but I could see that happening too…nice play on words. Kudos to you for thinking of it, I never would have. That would be a nice twist.

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    SVB Reply:

    Yeah I’m really on board with this too. If they want to continue the rough 24hrs per episode pattern they have been sticking with, they have to do it.

    It’s already stretching the bounds of plausibility (and this IS a vampire show FFS!) that everything we’ve seen so far has occurred in just 8 weeks.

    The characters need to be impacted by their experiences, grow, learn…they can’t do that believably if they are just being hurled from one drama to the next with no time to absorb anything.

    Neither can the audience.

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    dsm Reply:

    Moreover, they also need time to repair & clean up their houses from a Maenad attack.

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    jayetea Reply:

    Totally!!!

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    sheldon Reply:

    I hate to think of Jessica or Hoyt leaving the TB mortal coil (love them as a couple), but with AB’s body of work behind him, there’s bound to be a few bodies infront of him (hehe) this coming season. It could easily be one of these two. I think the honeymoon is over makes more sense within the time jump context…

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    hime Reply:

    I can accept a time warp of some weeks of even months, but definitely not years. A catching up after years is too much and Sookie would have to spend an enormous amount of time in FairyLand even if there time runs faster than on earth.
    I don’t know, there was no real cliffhanger at the end of season 3 that could not be resolved by narrating what happened (even Bill VS QSA: they could re-start with Bill in vampire jail or fighting in a cage at the Queen’s orders like someone imagined) but I’m not really a fan of the “N years later” theory. It would be highly anticlimatic.

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    Ashley Reply:

    I don’t think Sookie would have to spend that much time in fae world for a year to pass by in BT. I mean, Bill was in fae world for tops 15 minutes…and that translated to hours in BT. So lets say it was four hours. That means time passes 16x faster in BT. So if Sookie spend a month in fae world, almost a year and a half would go by in BT.
    I don’t think it will necesarily be that long but that’s just an example.
    I think it could actually solve one of the problems with season 3-dragging out the storylines and not spending enough time on the important stuff. This way, they could start with the present, wrap that up, then jump forward right into the action without having to spend a whole episode and last season’t cliffhangers. And they could start right away with fresh storylines that we have to take in as an audience without an explanation of how they got there…it would be a game changer and would make it more exciting to figure out what’s been happening in the time lapse.

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    MASpencer Reply:

    This is totally how I see it, Ashley– and to agree with you, Hime, I also think that none of the so-called “cliffhangers” are cliffhangery enough that they couldn’t be addressed retroactively, via their respective consequences.

    In fact, quite a few of these storylines (Tara leaving town, Arlene being pregnant, Jason becoming King of Hotshot, Sam falling hard off the wagon, Hoyt and Jessica playing house) NEED to be pushed FAR forward if they’re not going to get mired down in tedious details.

    As an audience member, I don’t need to see the day-to-day happenings of any of these characters– I really just want to see where their paths ultimately lead them (i.e. whether Arlene’s baby was demon spawn, whether Tara finally got her shit together, whether Hoyt and Jessica’s relationship could stand the test of time, whether Sam could finally release himself from the shadows of his past).

    The only “cliffhanger” that might be deemed anti-climactic as a consequence of a time jump– at least, in my opinion– is Bill’s showdown with the Queen. But really, that’s the cliffhanger about which I care the least– not just because it’s Bill (YAWN) but because there are a very limited number of ways in which this could turn out, practically speaking.

    It’s kind of like last season: We all knew Bill wasn’t going to die. So really, was anyone wringing their hands over him being kidnapped? I guess I’m wondering if Sophie-Anne will survive the fight… but I mean, why WOULDN’T she?

    Let me just say that, if Bill manages to kill her, or she’s accidentally killed by Maxine, it will be more than just anti-climactic. IT WILL BE STOOPID– an example (in my opinion) of writers stretching the bounds of credibility in order to dispose of a dried-up storyline that’s too difficult to resolve in some other, less unlikely way.

    But it could happen. So, I am bracing myself for the worst, regardless. :lol:

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    hime Reply:

    I agree with you, MAS. The real deal in Bill VS QSA’s showdown is not whether Bill dies, but whether the Queen dies or survives, and more pertinently HOW. I would be majorly pissed if it’s Maxine who shoots her. Seriously? But Bill could have had some trick up his sleeve and that could be interesting. Also, if QSA survives, then she will punish him, and again, how will she?

    Now I’m getting more and more on board with the time lapse theory but I can stomach not more than one year later re-start. One year is a lot of time if you think in TB terms. 2-3 years? Way too many.
    My guess is that they will skip the action about 6-7 months forward, just in time for Arlene’s delivery. It will be summer again, Tara will have had her experiences, Jason will be dealing with the HotShot mess, etc.
    The only problem is Maxine. She seemed pretty eager to make Jess pay, so I wonder how can she wait for some months to try to shoot her. Unless it will be left offscreen and when the action starts again, Jessica (or Hoyt) are already dead. And THAT would suck.

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    Ashley Reply:

    Yeah Hime, it might only be months. If sookie spent only a couple of weeks in Fae world, it would be about 8 months. I think they will show the end of the season three cliffhangers in the beginning, but then all of a sudden we’ll be in months later mode and we won’t know what hit us at first. They could do it so it looked like it was just happening but was actually someone’s flashback or memory.
    Picture this: We open with the consequence of Sam shooting tommy and Bill vs. the Queen. The ONLY two cliffhanger that need an immediate resolution (All the others were left open ended and not necessary to address right away)…and then in te next shot we see a close up of someone’s face like they always do in the flashbacks, whoever is having it. By doing this they accomplish the “starting the season where it left off” bit, technically. We are getting a resolution, it just already happened. Then we are back in present time, thrown into the current events.
    I can’t think it’s a coincidence that they had so many seemingly inconsequential “cliffhangers” (Eric just standing in Fantasia, Tara going on a road trip, Jason standing in hot shot ready to take over, Sookie just disappearing, Lafayette finding out his bf is a witch, Jessica and Hoyt moving in) with no ultimate purpose in mind…they are setting us up…..for a big surprise.

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    Ashley Reply:

    I shouldn’t have said it will be 8 months because obviously I don’t know that…but my estimate is 6-9 months.

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    Serena Reply:

    LOLOLOL, that could be MAS. .. but IMO they’d still have the most boring relationship on the show.. next to the one Bill has with himself. :lol:

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    MASpencer Reply:

    Word. I really have no interest in seeing Jessica and Hoyt play house, unless it turns out to be an unreasonably miserable situation– you know, with Hoyt becoming a raging alcoholic and Jessica hoarding dead bodies in the closet or whatever. :lol:

    But this “against all odds” crap is getting tiresome– all the Bill and Sookie bullshit dried that well of melodrama right up for me. No more, I say! IT MUST STOP.

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    Ashley Reply:

    Yeah i agree. I mean, I love Jessica as a character but Jessica and Hoyt together…well there’s only so many times you can do the “I love you no matter what” think before it loses its flavor…they need to do something to spice that up, and that usually involves some suffering for the characters.

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    Serena Reply:

    I think Hoyt might become a raging alcoholic anyway,.. lol, I’d like to imagine in the time jump scenario and with Jessica dead, Hoyt’s new arc would open with him waking up post epic bender and in bed with a butterface like Holly. Woof. O_O Its probably the only chance she’s got, LOL. And it would show a reversal of his views on casual sex.. Poor jaded Hoyt.

    I also hope, if they do go the route of killing Jessica, that they don’t pass up the opportunity to invert Sookie and Tara’s convo about Eggs’ death.

    Jason: “Hoyt, why so glum pal?”
    Hoyt: “Jessss..ica.. she’s dead. ”
    Jason “But Sookie’s missing, and Crystal too.. get some perspective man!”

    How I enjoy the high levels of Stackhouse sensitivity. :lol:

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    Vampy Reply:

    You are not really a fan of Jessica, right?

    I mean you always mention her like she will be definetely dead :(

    Which is luckily far far away till now and just one of a lots of possibilities

    Just saying ;)

    No offense, but it sounds like. Which is not bad of course, everyone is free to have an opinion :D

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    Serena Reply:

    I just calls it as I sees it.

    I do like Jessica.. I just don’t see her living her undead life for much longer. I feel like there isn’t much story left for her, but with her death there is more for others who can deal with the consequences and I’m just looking at those eventualities as they crop up in my head. : /

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    Vampy Reply:

    Honestly i think there is tons of stuff left for her. They just have to let her. Wouldn’t it be also nice if she kills Hoyts mother? ;) Also a good story.

    And i still highly doubt they kill a regular in the first episode, then she would be listed as guest not as regular. Same for Hoyt. In the season yes, but not in one of the very first episodes.

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    hime Reply:

    I actually think Jessica can raise new and interesting scenarios if she remains alive.
    1. She’s the child of a selfish psychopath who could manipulate her into doing his will, if he thinks that could help him to regain Sookie.
    2. She can’t control herself at 100% yet.
    3. She’s a teenager and has a lot of repressed anger, so she can easily take the wrong path.
    4. If the witches are necromancers, they could control the undead. What if Jessica falls in the hands of those people.

    Overall, if I were one of the writers, I certainly wouldn’t kill Jessica off before making her go berserk for a while, maybe attacking random people and so becoming a target for the FOTS. Or fall into Russell/Hallow’s hands. Or disappearing. Or becoming the tool in Bill’s hands to get his revenge against Eric.

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  • jayetea

    Wow! Well, I wouldn’t put it past AB to kill off either Jessica or Hoyt (or – gadzooks – both!). I do think he has to know that Jessica is a fan favorite, though…. I think her character also bolsters the male audience. IDK, I don’t have anything new to add that you guys haven’t covered. I sort of think AB will keep her around to make her life miserable for at least part of the season. Maybe Maxine will actually get killed by Jessica in the fracas and that will be a dealbreaker for Hoyt, which will then send Jessica spiraling down a Lorena-esque path. Ugh.

    MAS – you may have hit the nail on the head though, about a LITERAL honeymoon being over. AB is a sneaky mofo with his words like that!

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    FaninAL Reply:

    It is just the sort of thing AB would do.

    I think it would be interesting if something terrible happened and Bill took Jessica down the Lorena path. I know that since he’s released her there are lots of other options, but Jessica is so well set up to be a tragic character. It almost seems like a wasted opportunity if AB doesn’t take her there.

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    KatherineM Reply:

    I agree with this, we may get to watch how a Lorena is formed–a beautiful kind human girl becomes an evil sociopath, probably followed by her vampire death somewhere along the line. And we will all weep at the lost potential, beauty and kindness of Jessica, which we did not for Lorena.

    Even without vampire issues, Jessica and Hoyt would be doomed. She’s barely 18 as a human, he’s in his late 20′s, she’s the classic neglected teen girl who substitutes her boyfriend for an indifferent parent. Both her human and vampire fathers have been creepy crap. She’s still a mere infant vampire. What if Bill suddenly develops “parental interest” in her once he has nothing else to do, no one else to manipulate? We haven’t done the theory yet where she and Bill become lovers as he ‘trains’ her, as in Bill and Lorena.

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    KatherineM Reply:

    Or, if I want to optimistic, which is silly since AB never is, Jessica in the end becomes the un-Lorena, the one who still survives with her soul intact despite the evil fathers and all the crap she has gone through.

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  • Wow. Reading all your ideas has me spinning. I don’t want either Hoyt or Jessica to go. But that isn’t a good story as many have pointed out. I keep remembering the line Bill gave Jessica in S2, 2/3 of new vampires don’t survive their first year. Has anyone given any thought that Jessica could be Bubbafide? Now that would be a twisted angle. How, I haven’t a clue? I’m not a writer, but if anyone could figure it out, AB and TB writers could. I love both characters and would be sad to see either one go. All I know is that I really couldn’t stomach Bill’s bloody tears again if Jessica dies the final death.

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  • Vampy

    These things could very well happen seeing the season finale and hearin the little spoiler from AB:

    - Jessica dies

    - Hoyt dies

    - Hoyt gets bubbafide

    - Hoyt breaks up with her and does not want to see her again because of his crazy mom

    - Jessica kills his mom

    - they stay together as a couple, just have a hard time now because of Hoyts mom and the doll and so on

    - it is meant literal

    - Jessica gets hurt by his mom and does not want to continue this relationship this way, as she is afraid of death

    - something else happens

    In the end whe know that we know nothing. Everything goes.

    But seeing it now, AB pretty much said nothing, because we knew there will be trouble and no time for a honeymoon. However this will play out.

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  • I really want Hoyt to be turned but without the brain damage. How is this possible anyhow? Doesn’t becoming a vamp heal infirmities of all kinds? LOL. It’s not that hard to turn a vamp, even Jessica could do it. She’s a vampire, not a fucking idiot as she told Sam. LOL. The vamp drains the human, feeds him her blood, and goes to ground for 24 hours. Voila! BubbaHoyt.

    BubbaHoyt could prove once and for all that a vampire is not at the mercy of his ‘nature’, that not all of them have to become serial killers like Bill. A vampire has a choice in how he behaves, you know? Hoyt could prove it by being his own sweet self, probably subsisting on Tru Blood–as Renee pointed out he’s always been fascinated with it– being able to enter homes without an invite etc., maybe even becoming a vampire minister LOL. Just another noose around Bill’s lying neck and a shining example for Jessica to reject her baser instincts.

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    sunnynala Reply:

    And you know, it just seems inevitable that Maxine will miss Jessica and hit Hoyt. I can imagine a very tragic, heartbreaking scene where Maxine actually begs Jess to turn Hoyt in order to save his ‘life’. She may be a crazy control freak but I think she truly loves her only son.

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    Vampy Reply:

    BTW, it would be very unrealistic if Maxine really hits Jessica right to kill her. I mean she is an old lady without much experiences on weapons. And she would hit her in the heart? I would really doubt that, expecially seeing that Jessica would be probably fast enough to go out of the way. (ok, not if it is a moment of full surprise, but doubt she would come this close to Jess witha gun)

    I would be double pissed if that happens, because my favorite char dies there and then THIS way.

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    Katee Reply:

    We can’t know for sure how much or how little experience Maxine has with weapons. Hoyt’s father shot himself so we know at one point there were guns in that household. Who knows? She might be a great shot.

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    Ashley Reply:

    She’d still have to catch an extremely fast vampire by surprise even if she was an awesome shot though, and I don’t see that happening.

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    Vampy Reply:

    Might be Katee, but don’t forget she is old now. That she will hit perfectly is very unrealistic so i would be double crushed then.

    I agree with Ashley there. Does not mean it could not happen, but would be extremely disappointing.

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    Bobsgran Reply:

    A vampire minister, now that would be an interesting twist. He would be the total opposite of RE. Terrorist versus a vampire/man of the cloth.

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    sunnynala Reply:

    I know, right? Hoyt is a true Christian and becoming a vampire won’t change that. He could do a lot of good in that capacity, perhaps even as a MLK-type leader on vampire Civil Rights and, as did MLK, preach non-violence to his followers.

    Lol, I’m getting waaay ahead of myself as usual.

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    hime Reply:

    I doubt AB made Jason call Hoyt “Bubba” without a reason, even if it’s a very common way to call a friend in the South. Especially knowing that to Bookies (and there are a lot of Bookies in TB fandom) “Bubba” means “vampire”. It’s a clue.
    However, I think things will go like this: Maxine shoots Jessica. Instead she kills Hoyt. Hoyt can be faster than usual to put himself in the bullet’s trajectory because of Jessica’s blood in his veins. Jessica is desperate and tries to give her blood to Hoyt. But Maxine is still there trying to shoot her and she goes crazy and kills her and goes rogue. We will not know what happened to Hoyt until late in the season, when he comes back as a vampire.
    OR, Jessica thinks Hoyt’s dead, and she doesn’t give him any blood… But some other vampire does and here it is BubbaHoyt.

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    Bobsgran Reply:

    As long as we don’t get Eric/Bob I’ll take what comes. Don’t want to do a name change. LOL Many of the scenarios people are coming up with are really imaginative.

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    sunnynala Reply:

    It’s almost a given that Maxine has to shoot somebody, and like everyone else I will be pissed if she manages to shoot SA and accidentally extricate Bill from a pickle of his own making. This would just be too cheesy and pat by half. Since it would be unrealistic for Maxine to actually hit her target–she’s no ninja level marksman lol–Hoyt is the next most likely shooting victim given his probable proximity to Jessica at the time.

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    Renee Reply:

    And that doll lying on the floor was a boy. I think it was foreshadowing a fallen Hoyt.

    If it happens at Bill’s, a stray shot would be the perfect way to break the mysterious clock on Bill’s mantle that may hold Hallow’s spirit, and hello Marnie.

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    sunnynala Reply:

    Oh wow, I didn’t realize the doll was a boy! Dayum, good catch.

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    Skarlove Reply:

    Now that’s interesting! I hadn’t noticed it was a boy doll either. I like this idea, but that would take Hallow’s introduction entirely out of the hands of Russell. His jar o’ Talbot might be down the drain, but he’s got a lot of time to think and conjure up old acquaintances from the past right now.

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    Renee Reply:

    I’m not certain the doll is a boy, but the clothes look more masculine than feminine to me.
    http://black-celebration.net/caps/displayimage.php?pid=959581&fullsize=1

    RE’s intentions with the Talbot goo do bring Hallow to mind, but I’ve recently realized that Bill has been using magic since s1 against Sookie. Those dancing chairs were not misplaced props. S3 after Hank died in the closet (as a sacrifice) a spell was cast over Sookie. You can see it take affect. When she’s crying to Jessica in her purple dres, the furniture and pictures change in Bill’s house and hers. (pics at TAP)

    Bill has got to have a powerful witch on the payroll and that clock on his mantle has been shown glowing like a light when the room is empty.

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    sunnynala Reply:

    What kind of were was Book Hallow?

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    Renee Reply:

    She was a werewolf.

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    sunnynala Reply:

    She was a werewolf.

    Ah, well that shoots me down a little but I’ll go at from another angle. :D

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    Skarlove Reply:

    She was a nasty Were-Witch who compounded her witchcraft power by imbibing V. I could see this implicating her to QSA and her V dealing (for a long time I thought Hallow would be pussylover 9, but now not so sure), but for her to have a previous relationship w/Bill and have her involved with the mysterious clock on his mantle will take a bit of back-tracking. W/only 12 eps that’s a shit-ton of plot to deal with.

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    Renee Reply:

    I don’t think thee will be any backtracking. Hallow will just appear with no explanation like MA did. If we’re lucky we’ll see Bill’s clock being broken. The pieces will only start being connected at the end of the series, so viewers have to go back for another run through to figure out who did what when.

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    Vampy Reply:

    Really sure? Did not know that :O

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    Millarca Reply:

    I think Maxine is going to accidentally shoot and kill Hoyt. That would be such an Alan Ball thing to do. As for whether he’s likely to be the subject of a botched turning, I don’t know, but I doubt it. I think the fact he was called “Bubba” earlier was just a nod to bookies. Bubba is such a specific Vampire, I don’t think we’ll have Hoyt as the damaged vampire, because that would be too obvious, and this is a 12 episode per season show with only a couple of seasons left at most, and I don’t think there’s room for a Hoyt!Bubba. No I thik he will be killed outright, sending Maxine over the edge. I think Jessica will then kill her and go rogue.

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  • brooksfamily423

    ohhhhh….I haven’t heard the speculations about “ericbob” or the mystery involving Beeeeel’s clock.

    ***places elbows on knees and tents fingers***

    Explain

    ;)

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    Bobsgran Reply:

    brooksfamily, a silly/funny rumour was started when TB apparently hired a cat. Who knows for what reason, we’ll find out when the s4 starts up again. Soooo, someone speculated that a witch hexed Eric and turned him into a cat.
    Since the only cat in SSN is Bob, a witches goof, we got Eric/Bob.

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    Doute Boule Reply:

    I don’t go with the Eric/Bob theory. AB said Eric will have amnesia and AS stated he and Sookie will hook up. While a purring Eric would be funny very short term, hooking up with a cat is just ewwwwwwww. What would they have an Eric cat do? Suck mice blood? Go stiff feet up from dawn to dusk? Have Sookie put him in a closet all day?Would he need a scratching post? Litter box? It is just too outrageous. I would suspect that if they hired a cat it was to be a familiar for one of the witches. Great thoughts on the Jess/Hoyt plot lines.A rogue Jessica is still my best bet. Or maybe Jess will be kind of like Damon Salvatore after draining Maxine.

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    Ashley Reply:

    I think rogue Jessica would be awesome…Im changing my mind again..back to thinking Hoyt will die or something else will happen to trigger Jessica to snap…I actually thought he would die in last year’s finale but didn’t so i guess we’ll see. But I agree not that it probably won’t be Jessica…to much potential to give her a more involved storyline and cause problems for her and Hoyt.

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    SVB Reply:

    I don’t think it’s really a “theory” as such, Doute.

    More like a hoax. A day or so before this surfaced, there was another hoax doing the rounds (generated by a Spanish True Blood site) that Stephen Moyer would have a minimal role in season 4. The hoaxers fudged an interview with Moyer saying he had to give way to the storyline because Book 4 was all about E/S, and they fudged a quote from Ball. Turned out 28 December was the Spanish equivalent of April Fools :lol:

    I suspect there may have been some noses put out of joint… because those noses got themselves into a bit of a tizzy before realising that they were being played.

    The cat thing is laughable…it’s payback. LOL. ;)

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    Doute Boule Reply:

    Good to know SVB. There is a lot of vile bile being spewed on sites I will not name,but this as a joke, I can laugh at.

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    Ashley Reply:

    OMG…that is hilarious. I can’t even believe this cat thing was started…now at least I know why.

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    Katee Reply:

    That would explain why the same websites that were so quick to debunk the Moyer rumors haven’t said a peep about the “Eric-as-a-cat” rumors. And these are sites that claim to be TB fan sites and not Bill/SM sites. Sigh. So silly. :roll:

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    Renée Reply:

    Bill’s use of magic, and the significance of the clock is laid out here.
    http://www.ancientpythoness.com/2011/01/06/bills-a-magic-man/#comment-15429

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  • Vampy

    Not sure how important that is, but you remember the online blog of Jessica? It was said it will return for next season.

    And DAW is signed for all 12 episodes.

    But Hoyt too.

    Don’t know if this is a sign that definetely neither of them dies before season end, but i think it calms me down :)

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  • Herrick

    I’m curious where do people get the idea that Bill is an evil psychopath. He’s a vampire, all vampires are psychotic in their own way. Bill just lied to Sookie and fed off due to his hunger. But people look at Eric like he’s some knight in shining armor that can do no wrong. They always justify everything he does, how many innocent people has Eric killed?

    They called Bill evil after he fed on the stripper, don’t tell me Eric wouldn’t have done the same?

    Why does everyone call Bill a bad maker which he has been until S3? He’s obviously trying to be a good maker by teaching Jessica to fight even coming to see if she was okay. Simply vampires are manipulative beings that can’t be trusted.

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    Ashley Reply:

    I don’t think anyone on this blog sees Eric as a knight in shining armor, nor do they want to…thats usually Bills fans that see him that way. What people like about Eric is that he is up front about who and what he is and doesn’t try to hide or lie about it like Bill.

    Bill did a lot more than just lie or “feed” off Sookie because of hunger, but I guess its pointless arguing. The whole B/S relationship started because of not one, but two lies, one of which manipulating Sookie into falling for Bill by forcing her to take his blood, and making it appear as if Bill had “rescued” her. Eric hasn’t done anything comparable to Sookie…he doesnt try to hide or excuse whatever he’s done. And regarding killing people…add up how many people we’ve seen Bill kill on the show versus Eric…you’ll find that Bill has Eric way, way outnumbered. And the stripper…you say Eric would have done the same..i doubt it…Eric wouldnt have gotten himself into that situation in the first place.

    Bill is a bad maker. He taught her the basics of fighting because she refused to leave after he tried to get rid of her by releasing her as a baby vamp into the world…he was forced into it. He didn’t want her. He expected her not to feed off humans but then he had Sookie to feed off of. That’s called a hypocrite. And he didn’t even teach her how to feed…Pam had to tell her. She doesnt know how to turn someone because Bill didnt tell her, evidenced by the trucker. He didn’t eve want to bring her to Dallas. So we have every right to say Bills a bad maker, sorry, especially in comparison to Eric.
    And a lot of the people on this blog don’t think Bill is evil…they just don’t like him, and the reasons Ive listed above are the tip of the iceberg when it comes to evidence in support of that.

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    Doute Boule Reply:

    I don’t see Eric as a knight in shining armor. I see him as warrior in glossy pelts and tanned hides. He has a broadsword and copper bracelets, Thick fur lined boots and a gold Luck of Lochland broach on his wolf fur cape,a Raiðo rune carved from the arm bone of his first battle kill hangs from a leather strap on his neck and a chain knot gold ring graces his middle finger.I see him standing at the head of along boat hoping to meet his Valkyrie.He is a Berzerker in battle but smart and cunning as Odin. I see a bit of Loki in his eyes and great humor. There is lust,loyalty and laughter in equal parts and equal parts chivalry and savagery.His white horse is called Sleipnir and is a fine jumper. He loves his life and his unlife.Before battle he calls to the four winds and knows there is power in the male female union.

    Nah, I haven’t thought about this much

    >:-)

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    hime Reply:

    Bill is not evil. Bill has got all of the worst characteristics of a vampire, but he hides them under the surface of the “good” vamp, pretending to be better that the others, to have a morality that others don’t. He said to Sookie that basically he is the only vampire she can trust, the one and only who cares enough about her to be able to control himself. In all honesty, how can you justify this lie?
    Other vampires, and Eric in particular, don’t try to appear more honest, innocuous, loving, or human than they really are. They are upfront about what they are.
    That’s the reason why Franklyn is a beloved character, unlike Bill. He is EVIL, and a true psycho, yes, but he doesn’t lie about it.
    Eric is not a knight in shining armor and certainly not a saint. If he were, we wouldn’t love him so much. But he never told to Sookie he loved her, he never tried to hide that he kills if he wants to, and he never gave either to her or to the audience the impression that he wants his humanity back or dislikes what he is now or wishes to be a good guy, or a hero. That’s the difference between Eric and Bill.
    Drinking blood is in vampires’nature. Even killing is (though we could debate about it).
    Hypocrisy is not.

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  • Accol

    In light of SVB’s lovely treatise on the parallel between Franklin/Tara and Bill/Sookie, I started thinking. Could we get some sort of Jessica/Hoyt and Sookie/Eric parallel?

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