Live and Let Die

September 19, 2011 in 4.12 And When I Die, Episodes, True Blood

In this week’s finale of True Blood, we learn that runny yolks can kill, table salt brings grannies back to life, pork rind casseroles keep families together, and even lame parties end up in the kitchen when Debbie Pelt’s invited…

Sink your teeth into some spoilery commentary after the jump…

Well, it’s been a whole week since last Sunday’s finale—long enough for the gaping head wound left by season four’s last installment to crust over. So it’s a good thing I’m finally here to pick that shotgun shell-sized scab right off!

Let’s relive the madness for old times’ sake, shall we?

Stabby Side Up

The finale begins over Halloween morning breakfast at the Velasquez-Reynolds household, where Jesus has prepared a nutritious, non-pig-fat-fried meal for his beloved possessed boyfriend.

Lafayette’s acting all weird—you know, because he’s actually Marnie—but Jesus chalks it up to the traumatic events of the previous evening, and declares that he’s prepared to put magic behind them for good if that’s what Lafayette wants. Unfortunately, he realizes a little too late that they’re both in deep shit already, and ends up with his hand unceremoniously skewered by a yolky fork.

TOTALLY SAW THAT COMING… and was not disappointed at all.

Marnie ties Jesus up to a chair in Lafayette’s living room, explaining that she wants his magic and that she’s more than willing to go to great lengths to get it. Jesus gives her a lecture about how loneliness and the pursuit of power have corrupted her, but when she threatens to mutilate Lafayette’s unwilling body, he ultimately gives in and starts reciting his BRRRUJO incantations.

Then, of course, Marnie stabs Jesus and licks his blood, effectively killing him and stealing his demon in one fell swoop. But it’s all good, because as Jesus later tells Lafayette, he would’ve just died with an ass full of bedsores in a nursing home somewhere, anyway.  Besides, now that Lafayette’s a medium, being alive and/or undead is no longer necessary in order for any given cast member to ride this ride.

Thusly, next summer, I expect we’ll finally get that much-anticipated Jesus and Lafayette sex scene we’ve all been waiting for. Maybe Louisiana will even pass a new human/ghost marriage law so that they can top it off with a totally fabulous wedding, officiated by Tio Luca himself.

And you said you weren’t going to watch next season.  

Casserole With the Punches

Meanwhile, in the Bon Temps Cemetery, Sam lays his dearly departed brother to rest with a moment of silence at the saddest gravesite we’ve seen since Eggs decided to disappear into True Blood history, never to be mentioned again.

Maxine Fotenberry arrives to pay her respects, confessing to Sam that Tommy was like a son to her, even though he stole her underwear and church shoes and sold her house out from under her (which she obviously doesn’t know about yet). And in a rare moment of maternal compassion, she offers Sam a pork rind casserole and tells him to call her Momma, because THEY’RE THE ONLY FAMILY THEY’VE GOT.

You know, if you don’t count Hoyt, who might as well just walk around wearing a toilet seat around his neck at this point.

Later, Luna and Emma show up, and Sam spends the day parading his girlfriend’s daughter around his bar so that she can tell everyone how cool she is with her Dad being dead. He also gives Sookie her job back, even though it’s clear that the only reason the writers had her punching in today was so that Alcide could beg her to follow her brain and drop her drawers for him.

I mean, it’s been a whole 12 hours since he abjured Debbie. Werewolves have needs, you know.

Meanwhile, Terry Bellefleur’s old war buddy shows up at Merlotte’s, and as much as I’d like to get excited over a storyline that dredges up the skeletons of his past, I just can’t—even though I’m pretty sure this new guy is part of the trouble about which Ghost Rene later warned Arlene in his fake Cajun accent. Suffice to say that it looks like Terry is shaping up to take over as next year’s walking, talking Port-A-Pot, which should come as a great relief to Hoyt.

Anyway, later that evening, Sam finally says goodnight to Luna, only to find a werewolf snarling behind him. Who could it be??? A member of the Shreveport pack, perhaps?? Or maybe even Terry’s new old war buddy?

Does anyone really care?

Graveyard Short Shrift

Back at Lafayette’s house, Tara finds Jesus’ corpse and immediately knows what’s up—so she collects Sookie and a very stoned Holly to go deal with Marnie once and for all. Marnie, meanwhile, has been busy killing all of Bill’s guards and silvering him and Eric to a stake in preparation for a Samhain barbecue.

Don’t ask me how Marnie accomplished this, since she no longer possesses Antonia’s necromancy powers.

The important part is that Sookie gets to cry over Bill and Eric before breaking out with a convenient case of sternohands again.

Shortly after, Holly, Tara, and Sookie begin to chant in their salt circle, at which time, a whole bunch of dead people—including Gran and Antonia—show up to see what all the fuss is about. Luckily, it seems that Gran has been busy practicing the art of exorcism in the afterlife, because she’s somehow able to rip Marnie’s spirit out of Lafayette so that she and Antonia can put all of the neat stuff they learned on Dr. Phil to good use.

So it is that, after a whole lot of platitudinous protest, Marnie finally whines her way into the afterlife with Antonia… and all those other random ghosts… and GRAN. Because change is hard, we all die alone, and the answer is in your heart. Or something.

THE END.

That’s right—Marnie’s character raises literal Hell all season long, only to be defeated by a pound of Morton’s. And GRAN. And once again, the audience is beaten over the head with an anything-but-subtle exposition on anger and forgiveness in the finale, courtesy of cringe-worthy dialogue that falls out of the characters’ mouths about as gracefully as a horse on roller skates.

I wanted to hide behind my couch during the entire mess, you guys. That’s how embarrassed I was for this show on Sunday night.

Sofa King Stupid

Speaking of couches and embarrassment, don’t think I’ve failed to notice that, all season long, this show has gone to great pains to put Bill in an Eric suit and Eric in a Bill suit—quite literally, you’ll find, if you peruse even a handful of screencaps. And in the finale, it appears that we’re finally offered the culmination of this subliminal strategy: Bill and Eric on either side of Sookie, sporting Randolph and Mortimer robes while they suck her tasty blood and she actively tries not to cream her fairy panties.

Needless to say, it’s not a good look on anyone… including (and maybe especially) Sookie.

Was this the intention? I don’t know—and I don’t know if I care, either. Because, however you interpret it, there were so many things wrong with this scene, I don’t even know where to start.

Should Sookie “forgive” Bill? HELL YES, SHE SHOULD. As this show is so fond of reminding us, anger—the granddaddy of all emotional afflictions—is a cancer that will eat away at our psyche until there’s nothing left but a stinking metaphorical carcass. Luckily, forgiveness is an excellent solution to that problem.

But you know what? It’s also a process—one that hasn’t been explored in the least with Sookie’s character this season, making for both a horribly wasted opportunity as well as a disingenuous resolution to this fucked up “triangle,” even as Sookie does the right thing and walks away from both vampires.

In fact, I’d be totally behind Sookie forgiving Bill—even within the exaggerated timeline of the show—if she didn’t also feel the need to justify his past behavior as an act of love in the process, and in the next breath, ask for his forgiveness in return.

Take it away one more time, Stefon…

SERIOUSLY, YOU GUYS. I have nothing more to say about this little nugget. Except that, as someone who has buried the hatchet with a few shitty exes in the past, that’s NOT really how it works.

But unfortunately, it appears as though the writers have decided to sacrifice believable storytelling in order to turn this finale into a soapy, supernatural episode of The Bachelorette—made all the worse by the empty ballsack formerly known as Eric Northman’s pathetic excitement when he thought he was getting the last rose, not to mention Sookie’s ridiculous blubbering after making “the hardest decision of her life” and choosing to spend some time alone.

Really, writers??? REALLY.

Excuse me while I go throw shit and scream about Sookie’s precious fairy vagina like my girl Pam—whose all-too-brief scene, by the way, was probably the best meta moment of the entire series.

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If only Ginger could have come and hugged me as my respect for this show died a sad, degrading death before my very eyes.

And while we’re on the subject of sad, degrading deaths…

Nan ends the episode in a bloody heap next to her decapitated Spaceball Squad, after Eric gives Bill a verbal rim job in her presence and she lets both of them know that Sookie’s secret isn’t so secret after all. Of course, this isn’t a particularly helpful move, as she also explains that The Authority has an order on their heads—or at least, one of the “factions” do.

Which means everyone can start getting excited for another nonsensical political storyline next season. Or, alternatively, aforementioned “factions” and “orders” may never be mentioned again. We just never do know, now do we?

Little Red Riding Wood

Elsewhere in Bon Temps, Jason decides to end the struggle with his conscience by manning up and telling Hoyt that he banged Jessica. After a quick pep talk and a pat of his truck, he finally confesses, and Hoyt reacts pretty much the way one would expect him to—by kicking Jason’s ass, and telling him that he’s a piece of shit for moving in on his best friend’s ex when he could have had anyone else, and that he’s an even bigger piece of shit for trying to blame his fucked up choices on Jessica’s blood.

THESE ARE TRUE FACTS, HOYT.

Later that night, Jessica shows up at Jason’s house sporting lingerie and a red cloak, while Jason tends to his wounds with frozen fruit pops. And at this point, I kind of wish that the entire finale consisted solely of Jason eating popsicles, because he’s an adorable manwhore, and I probably would have enjoyed it more than 99 percent of everything else on offer.

Anyway, Jess and Jason do the nasty, remaining ever vigilant in ensuring that nary a nipple is seen.

And then, they stop right in the middle of said sexytime session to have a conversation about their “relationship.”

Yeah… about that

I realize that, for Jessica, this season has been all about spreading her wings and embracing her sexual independence. Nevertheless, I find this character’s swift transition from homeschooled, teen-aged, perpetual virgin to sexy siren capable of seducing the likes of Jason Stackhouse just a little bit jarring and hard to swallow. And I won’t even bother to mention Jason’s lack of sexual trauma after the whole Hotshot debacle—because understandably, it’s been brought up quite enough already.

My point is, I really want to root for these two as a couple. But the fact is, they just don’t make a whole lot of sense—aside from the fact that both of them could obviously do worse in the fuckbuddy department.

It seems like a lot of trouble to go to for a lay. I’m just saying.

Kitchen Nightmares

Meanwhile, Jason isn’t the only one getting surprise visitors this evening, as Debbie shows up with a gun in Sookie’s kitchen and aims for Sookie, but shoots Tara instead. And then, of course, Sookie shoots Debbie, while Debbie begs for her life.

All in the last 30 seconds of the episode… but not without the requisite ZOMG, DEAD GRAN and LET’S WATCH THE SUNSET TOGETHER foreshadowing.

I’m sorry, but Debbie Pelt deserved better than that. With the way they actually fleshed out her character this season, she deserved a magnum opus of a swan song before her eventual death—you know, instead of being tacked onto the end of the episode like an afterthought, toting a double-barrel shotgun and looking like she was just teleported back from a Mötley Crüe concert circa 1984.

I don’t know about you, but I expected a lot more—and I feel that both the event and Debbie’s character were just a little bit wasted here.

Tara, on the other hand, probably deserved considerably less, given the beating her character gave the proverbial dead horse this season. But I do like to think that maybe this was the show’s way of telling us that it WAS her gun that shot Sookie… and that, maybe, this was Tara’s way of making amends for her mistake.

One thing I will give the show: I honestly didn’t think for a second that they would kill off Tara—though with the way the character has been consistently spinning her self-contradictory wheels, I can’t call it an entirely unwelcome development.

But then, we don’t know that she’s really dead, anyway. As many in the fandom have already pointed out, there’s the distinct possibility that she’ll be turned into a vampire—which would be an interesting little narrative experiment, given her hatred for everything and anything with fangs, not to mention an appropriately ironic turn for her character.

With all that said, however, I’m pretty sure I saw some brains in her puddle of blood—so it’s just as likely that, YES, she’s actually dead. Not that this would pose any more of a permanent loss, since this episode effectively removed all the narrative tension that would otherwise result from aforementioned death, by allowing everyone and their decapitated mother to communicate with Lafayette… or at least go to live in that Great Big Photoshop Job in the Sky with Gran.

In any case, they always come back. At this point, watching True Blood is a lot like being one of those family members on Hoarders who finds a broken cat-shit-covered carnival prize from 1973 sitting in the living room, after it was just thrown in the 1-800-GOT-JUNK dumpster thirty minutes earlier.

Rotten to the Encore

In the interest of ending this segment of the recap on a more positive note, let me take a moment to squeal a little over a couple of cliffhangery developments that do have me excited—namely, the return of my two all-time favorite bad guys, Steve Newlin and Russell Edgington.

First, Steve knocks on Jason’s door in the middle of the night dressed like a villain from an 80s movie. He then shamelessly ogles the elder Stackhouse’s manbits, before—TA-DAH!—he flashes a new set of fangs.

Is it a costume??? Is it real??? I’m going with the latter, if only because of the way said fangs popped out. But time will tell—and either way, his return is a welcome one, even if I am a little confused as to why he would show up at Jason’s doorstep after being missing for months. This, ladies and gentleman, is one random plot development I can stand by.

Then there’s Russell, who we knew would be returning… but that didn’t make it any less titillating when I heard his operatic theme resurface in the background as Alcide stared, puzzled, at the abandoned silver chains in his hands.

Surely, I was not the only one who yelled TAAAAAALBOOOOOT!!!! from my couch.

So who let him out? From what Alcide’s employee said, it seems it was another vampire. And if I had to guess, I’d go with Nan herself. She was just about ready to FUCK THE AUTHORITY before Eric and Bill decided to stake her out of existence—and releasing Russell Edgington would pretty much be the vampire equivalent of shitting in the water tank of your boss’ private toilet on your way out the door.

In any case, the mere thought of having a double-dose of awesomely campy evil in a single season is enough to make my head explode. And it’s a good thing, too, because this finale ran more than a little short on reasons to return next summer.

In Summary…

Do I even really need to summarize?

I could go on for pages and pages about the painfully obvious themes of “And When I Die”—the impermanence of life, the destructiveness of fear and anger, the futility of the human concept of justice, and the spiritual imperatives of compassion, clarity, and forgiveness, just to name a few. Alan Ball’s self-professed Buddhist leanings shone through brightly in this episode—especially in the scenes featuring Lafayette, Jesus, Gran, and Marnie—and while the execution was saccharine and ham-fisted, I do appreciate the now-trademark sentiment.

And I think it’s both appropriate and brilliantly ironic in the context of this show’s subject matter. While we spend the entirety of our human lives fearing the dark unknown that comes after life, the truth of the matter is that life is a painful hell unto itself—and the undead are damned specifically because they’ll never die, and never experience the eternal peace that comes with true freedom from attachment and affliction.

But you know… that lovely little chestnut doesn’t change the fact that this finale was a huge disappointment to me.

As both a genuine fan and a viewer who appreciates character-driven television, I expect so much more from showrunner Alan Ball, whose work I have always enjoyed immensely. And yet, if the series went off the rails three episodes ago, then it’s safe to say that this episode careened True Blood into full on train-wreck territory… leaving me with horrible flashbacks to season two’s ostrich-egg-meets-Yahtzee-meets-premature-proposal finale of FAIL.

But at least that finale still had consistent character development… which is more than I can say for this one. Following suit with the handful of episodes before it, this episode took four years’ worth of its own history and turned it on its head, sacrificing credibility in order to promote the thematic agenda du jour, instead of painstakingly crafting the characters’ actions to service the show’s message in an effortless way.

In short, Sunday’s finale told the story it should have been showing. And all it managed to do was rip me right out of this series’ world—while simultaneously making it very difficult to take any of the aforementioned themes seriously—as a result.

On the bright side, it had camp value in spades—I’ll give it that. But sadly, aforementioned camp wasn’t executed even half as intelligently (or maybe even intentionally) as it needed to be in order to save what little creative integrity this show seems to have left. And this obvious failure is the main reason why I can’t help but think that both Alan Ball and his team of writers have lost just a little bit of the enthusiasm they once had for this project… because there’s no question that, over the course of this summer, I most definitely have.

In twelve short weeks, the fourth season has come and gone, and I feel just a little bit dumber because of it. It’s been a frustrating and fun ride—the former because Alan Ball and company obviously picked up the crack pipe this year, and the latter because the fourth season wasn’t without its high points, the plateaus of which I was at least able to mercilessly ridicule with all of you.

I really can’t tell you how much I love reading your intelligent, insightful, and routinely hilarious comments every week… and there just aren’t words to express how happy it makes me to be able to make you laugh. Most importantly, SVB, I can’t possibly thank you enough for giving me the chance to take up space on this amazing blog you have created, or for the time and care you’ve put into making it one of the most popular fansites of its kind on the internet.

For the last two years, sharing this show with all of you has been the highlight of my summer… and that’s why it is with great sadness that I announce my official retirement from the recapping biz.

As you may already know, my first tiny teacup human is on his way, due to arrive this December. Suffice to say that next summer’s spare hours will almost certainly be devoted to dirty diapers and strained peas in the MASpencer household—so as it turns out, the supreme suckage of the latter half of this season couldn’t have been more timely.

In fact, I like to think the writers were just trying to make this easier for me… because, well, I’m a narcissist like that. Which means that, while my weekly recap may be no more, I still hope to see you around the forum… where I can spend what little free time I have left assaulting you with tangential Steel Magnolias references and offering copious unsolicited details about the consistency of my adorable new baby’s poop.

Until then, stay classy, Sookieverse… and sound off, for the last time, below!

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Live and Let Die

257 Comments

    1. EricMyLover says:

      Loved the fairy Sookie pic. Made me spit my cuppa out! Good luck with the mini you. Your recaps will be missed.

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    2. SVB says:

      *STANDING OVATION*

      And that’s not just for this week, but for every one of these recaps you’ve slaved over for the last two seasons, MAS. You are so talented and funny, and I have to tell ya, your insight has given me a new way of looking at things on this show more times than I care to count.

      If I ever start a parenting site you can come and write about the best way to get green peas out of white suede couches any time, because I know you’d make that shit as funny as hell.

      It’s been such an honour to get to know you as I have over the last two years and I hope that when this teacup of yours arrives you still have time to hang out.

      I wish I could be as nostaligic about this season, and particularly this finale as I am about it being the last one you’ll recap for us. But the apathy has well and truly taken root and like you, I find it hard to get all that wound up about what we were served this year. I struggled all season to write any analysis on the show, which in retrospect should have been a Big Red Flag that my interest was waning. By the time we reached the finale, I thought I was at the point where no amount of fuckery would surprise me. But I was wrong.

      I don’t know what the problem is in that writer’s room – but I suspect you may have hit on something with your comments about Ball’s own waning interest. He’s just not running the tight ship that he was, and it was obvious this season that he only had one eye on this show and the other roaming over other things.

      The bottom line for me? I don’t understand these characters anymore. I don’t understand what drives them, what they care about, what they’re afraid of or how they relate to eachother. Why don’t I understand this as a viewer? Because the goal posts are constantly shifting depending on who is writing and where they’re trying to get the characters to go. It’s lazy and it’s a complete boner killer in terms of maintaining interest. I can’t bond with the characters. Every time I feel like I know them, they do something completely OOC and I’m back to square one. If the writing were up to par, by this point in the series I shouldn’t be feeling like I’m still taking blind stabs in the dark as to what makes these characters tick.

      Keeping your audience guessing should arise from the machinations of the plot, rather than writing your characters with schizophrenia.

      Anyway, like you I could go on and on about what I thought was wrong with this season – without even mentioning the *E* word – but that would require a passion and level of interest that I just don’t feel for this show at the moment.

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      • Freyja says:

        Woohoo SVB, you put up a ‘like’ button!! Squeeee :D (I’m more excited about that than the show hehe)

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      • C.K. says:

        If AB was losing interest in the show he should have just handed the torch to someone else instead of renewing his contract for season 5. He did have an idea for another show but it didn’t get picked up. AB ended Six Feet Under at 5 seasons because he felt like they came up with every possible death that they could think of. He wanted to end the show while it was still good and not have another season for the sake of having another season.

        I won’t even blame it 100% on AB because there are other producers on this show too. Before the season begin the writers/producers sit together and come up with the outline and over all arc for each character and the storyline. It’s a collaborative effort. It’s difficult to put this Humpty together again.

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      • Gigi says:

        [By the time we reached the finale, I thought I was at the point where no amount of fuckery would surprise me. But I was wrong.]

        I was also wrong. Because actually it was way more fucked up than I ever expected (and you know that this is hard to believe).

        [I don’t know what the problem is in that writer’s room... Keeping your audience guessing should arise from the machinations of the plot, rather than writing your characters with schizophrenia.]

        Ohhh, but (quoting the bitch) they were having SO MUCH FUN… *roll eyes*

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      • Skylar says:

        Thank you for your time spent with us!!!! Excellent as always.

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        • Leif says:

          I think this sums up the fuckedupness of the writing on this show;

          http://sanctoerico.tumblr.com/post/10417098509/missing-please-help-us-locate-sookie-stackhouses

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          • Freyja says:

            hahaha, yeah I saw that ;) I don’t believe anymore that it’s Bill’s toxic blood making Sookie react like this. Maybe they want us to believe that, but the only reason for them using that excuse is to make Bill relevant in this fucked up ‘love triangle’. It’s been 4 seasons already!! Sookie isn’t progressing, she’s regressing. I just can’t anymore :(

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            • C.K. says:

              The thing is that next season will probably start that night or the next day. Maybe she will be single for a week and then start dating Alcide or who ever else they want to bring in the show. It will have been a week after AE and two weeks after the season 3 Bill breakup. Sookie mentioned to Jason it takes a long,long,long time to get over a love that runs deep. However, Sookie never gets anytime. She can’t grow a lot if a significant amount of time never passess. I don’t think they will do a time jump. The timeline is apart of the problem with the show too.

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          • Lyta says:

            OH. MY. GOD. when I think that writers can not fuck with the own story’s logics and continuity EVEN MORE, something like this pops up, I would laugh, but it’s sad and pathetic for them, it’s not even funny.
            *face palm*

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          • sneeky says:

            Someone should send exactly this gif to the people who are responsible for the show, it seems the writers themselves constantly forget what they have written in the past…its just so bad…

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    3. leila says:

      Love your recap, I am only watching TB next season to just read your recap afterward.lol … Its the hype of TB itself now for me —your recap.

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    4. Emily says:

      So much can be said but Pam pretty much said it all! Love that woman!
      I will say that I’m willing to bet that Pam shows up at “fucking” Sookies house, turns Tara to save her and in turn makes her a progeny! I can dream!
      MAS, I will miss your blog. I almost gave up on the show but was over the moon to find such a funny and spot on write up of True Blood. I have a 5 month old baby and between the weeks of spew and poo I count the days until the next episode (with waning enthusiasm..) but even more so I looked forward to what you had to say!! Hope to see you pop up here and there :)

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    5. Vamped78 says:

      Good Luck MAS. Your recaps were always able to give me a laugh, and good luck with you new baby! XOXOXO

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    6. leanan sidhe says:

      Your re-caps were better than the show this season. I will miss them. Congratulations on your baby!

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    7. Freyja says:

      Thank you so much for your recaps this summer and last MASpencer. If you had decided to recap next season, I would read that instead of watching the show. It’s 10000 times more entertaining than True Blood ;)
      Good luck with the parenting role and I hope to see you around the forum discussing other shows, books and every day life.
      You are the queen of recappers! :*

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    8. sheldon says:

      Oh MAS the bachelorette reference was spot on. That couch scene (both of them really) encompassed all that was wrong with TB this season: Crap dialogue, plot driven OOC behaviour and the shoving of Bill Compton down the viewers collective throats whether it made sense for his characterisation or not.

      MAS your recaps are an institution on Sookieverse and I have recommmended them to many as I am sure others have. Cause they’re that damn good. Sad that this is your last one but so happy for you and your family with the new addition on the way. I look forward seeing you join in with us commoners (LOL) on the blog and in the forum when you get a minute between nappy changes and sleep deprivation. Well done hon.

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    9. Freyja says:

      I’m so lazy now when it comes to this show, that I’m just gonna copy/paste what I wrote on tbrantsandraves yesterday.

      I’m totally over the show by now, apathy has set in. I’d been in a bad mood since ep. 8 and even before, there were so many things I hated. I’ve calmed down now since the finale and don’t feel connected to the characters like I was before.

      I was so hopeful going into this season. What an absolute disaster it’s been. It started off pretty good though, counting out the coronation of Bill. I think that plot twist is what ultimately ruined the whole season, as it affected everything else. Sookie, Eric and Pam all became plot devices and props for Bill. Their behavior has been severely OOC this season (well Sookie has been a plot device since season 2 at least). I’ve wanted to scream and toss things (tbh I did do that at least once). It’s not even about the books. They have taken the characteristics that they’ve (the writers) developed themselves through 3 seasons and thrown it to the side, sacrificed them for the sake of plots and propping up another character. I’ve had a big WTF sign over my head at least since ep. 8 and my eyes are stuck in permanent eyeroll.
      I don’t know what the writers are smoking but it’s some bad sh**!!!!

      After seeing the flashback with Nan and Bill. Nan talking about saint Bill not killing his victims (wtf is glamour for anyways????) and when Pam talked about killing, fucking and laughing all over Europe in ep. 6 and then now talked about Eric seducing princesses and super models and spitting out their bones. Well that’s when I knew I would NOT want to see a flashback with Pam and Eric. I see a character assassination on the horizon. As if season 4 wasn’t enough!

      The couch scene (seriously that couch needs to be burned!). I have never been as furious over this show ever! Not even after AB’s soulmate comment or when Eric chained Sookie in his dungeon. Everything that was said and not said was wrong. Every glance, movement or stupid puppy look was wrong!!! Who ever that was on the couch with Sookie and Bill was not Eric, but some 14 year old awkward teenager. And Sookie never once this season showed that she remembered the beating of the Rattrays, the lies, the manipulation, the cheating, the procurement assignment. She didn’t work through anything in this week since she arrived back. Are we suppose to believe that she’s ok with this, smiling, saying she forgives and she begs Bill to forgive her????? Oh and apparently he lied to protect her and Eric is untrustworthy! These writers need to lay down the crack pipe. I’m insulted as a woman watching the heroine/protagonist of the show behave and talk like she’s been doing.

      One more thing that has been bothering me a lot. The rape scene! Jason isn’t even affected by that at all. He was tied to a bed for at least 2 days, bitten and raped repeatedly and he just jumps into another sexual relationship just like that. It’s not believable and insulting to me as a viewer. Insulting to any rape victim watching this show.

      Anyways, it’s good to finally be able to say adieu to this show. It’s been going down hill since s.3, although that season was more entertaining cluster fuck.

      Thank you for your great recap and insight MASpencer. See you around the forum :)

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      • slayer99 says:

        The couch scene was beyond ridiculous. It made no sense whatsoever. Forgiving Bill? For what he did? Seriously? Eric’s dialogue was horrible (it was not something I’d expect him to say EVER). It looks like they’re just setting up Sookie to get some were (bad pun…tee hee) in her.

        As an aside. I can forgive the writers glossing over Jason hooking up with Jessica and forgetting the trauma of his multiple rapes for 2 reasons.

        First, he did have her blood twice.

        Secondly, Jessica is farking HOT. She’s the vampire equivalent of Viagra. She could raise the dead in any man. I mean if Jessica Hamby showed up at my doorstep with a cape and lingerie….well, suffice to say I’d forget a lot of things in that scenario. :)

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        • Freyja says:

          If it had been a woman who had been gang raped I think the viewers would have reacted differently. But I don’t think it matters what sex you are, rape or gang rape would always affect you. I hated how AB and the director on the ‘inside the episode’ were laughing about this scene and saying something about Jason having it coming for being such a horndog. Then Jason repeated it to Hoyt and that was it, the whole subject was over for the writers. The rape definitely would have affected Jason or any other character, vamp blood or not. I also disliked how AB talked about this scene at the CC.

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          • C.K. says:

            Especially since CH is a rape survivor.

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          • IATM says:

            Yea, Rape is rape ( regardless of Vamp Blood).. but to Sookie & Jason it appears to be something that is not a big deal (no matter how the fan base reactes to rape).. i mean Sookie made excuses for Billy raping her in CD & Jason makes excuses for the Werepanther’s raping him in s4.. plus book Jason even after the Rape still dated Crystal since she was preganant & then CH killed her out… i mean Jason did a stand up thing still marrying Crystal & all.. i always found that mindboggling myself.. but i guess that is those nice genes that Sookie & Jason got being half human & forgiveness is the key to all evil.. considering that Fae manupulate humans & rape humans themselves for breeding purpose… see what being too kind get’s ya?? it appears no where on TB & the SVM..

            so i wonder what will happen with Crystal on TB & her litter of kittens?? i surly see a demise comming just as Debbie died out… **sigh**

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            • C.K. says:

              I do think Jason’s character experienced some growth this season. In season one he was repulsed by vampires and the idea of sleeping with one but now he is fine with it. However, I think Jason’s character has been trashed by the end of this season because he just betrays his best friend and acts like it’s nothing and makes excuses.

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            • Slayer99 says:

              They really did develop Jason’s character more than previously (Andy and Terry as well). He was looking out for Andy, trying to take care of the morons in Hot Shot, became a cop (that seldom worked as a cop according to my gf he did look bitchin’ in uniform), and became a little more selfless this season.

              In all fairness to Jason, Hoyt DID break up with her and was repulsed by her blood. So while it may not have been cool to go out with a girl your buddy just broke up with, Jason isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed. Hoyt was talking smack about her and calling her a monster, Jason probably wasn’t astute to realize that he didn’t mean it. I sure he realized it now.

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          • znb says:

            i can not even think about the handling of jasons rape with out my blood pressure shooting up. i mean give me a break! UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE. and sookie throwing erics fang “rape” in his face and bill…just somebody for the love of all that is holy get sookie back to faedoucheland and force feed her that light fruit so she NEVER returns!

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            • danielik25 says:

              I agree! And Tara would go with Sookie! I´m starting to hate this True Bill show, but SM in number 1 for AB forever. So sad!

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        • C.K. says:

          I re-watched the episode with my Mom and when the “slumber party scene” ended she joked, “Now Sookie can go be with Alcide because he loves her too.” It just made me laugh because that is what will probably happen next season. Sookie will be single all of 3 days and then be wiht Alcide. Sookie and Bill will be back to making moon eyes and looks of longing at each other. No thank you. Maybe Eric will gain his diginity back.

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      • Gigi says:

        Freyja dear, I’m very sorry to tell you that Eric character assasination began in Season 1 when Bill killed LongShadow and Eric didn’t move an inch, nor his expression changed a little bit. And it was confirmed in Season 2 when he said to Bill: “It’s the new me, you like?”

        1. The teacup humans
        2. The torture dungeon (and torturing Lafayette because he could have glamour him in order to know the information he wanted to know)
        3. The haircut and color change………………
        4. The lack of knowledge of what was a manead being a 1000 y/o vampire (*roll eyes*)
        5. The image of (V) drug dealer and the suggestion of money launder (when he sold his car to Lafayette for a dollar)
        6. The lack of control and impulsiveness
        7. The vengeance and lack of caring for Sookie KNOWING that RE went out to kill her (because he wanted to kill Talbot..)
        8. (and even) His continuous crying and Oedipal behavior with Sookie this season (I told you MAS, do you remember that we discussed this about two years ago? I told you…I saw it coming)
        9. (not to mention that) Bill told Jessica this season almost THE SAME speech that Godric told Eric about how the hate to humans should be stop, while he never understood, nor even cared about Godric’s words…

        These are just some examples of the “new Eric” that was announced in Season 2. And now he is the new and official “heart and spine ripper” of TB, so I imagine that RE has lost this trick (which incidentally reminds me a lot about how Peter Pan at the end of the story finished with his nemesis Garfio, only to retain the garfio for his personal use…).

        PFFFFFFFFT!!!

        He’s a vampire but all this is too much shit. Too much Ballshit.

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        • sneeky says:

          I don´t think that the character assassination did begin with the longshadow stuff at all, I was ok with that they gave this one thing to Bill to create Jessica, but there are certainly a lot of other things that bother me, for example Eric saving Sookie from debbie Pelt, I think this scene was important, but no, they didn´t show this, its like they always try to take away Erics good deeds from the books but take out every good thing that Bill does from the books and even give him stuff from other characters, like him leading the witch war, not Pam, just to make him look good and like a hero, which totally sickens me; too much glorification of the bill character, its like they want to force him onto us and to make him more popular, because Eric has has outshined him since season 2…

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          • IATM says:

            oh Sneeky,

            it totaly started in s1 with Billy killing LS & Eric just standing there.. in DUD Sookie felt pitty for Billy not doing the deed himself.. Sookie / AB totaly started slowly taking down Eric’s character to build up Billy’s.. even with small things like hair color & Billy making Jessica is a mimick of Eric since book Billy doesnt have a progeny & Eric does..

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            • C.K. says:

              IATM I never made that connection that Jessica’s turning was a little like book Pam’s. Book Pam was not given a choice either. When Bill gave Sookie blood this season it reminded me of the scene in Dead and Gone when Eric gives Sookie blood (after the Quinn/Bill fight). She was unconscious in the book and Eric wipes her face with a wash cloth. Someone once mentioned (sorry I don’t remember who) that whis show is like some kind of experiment. Like with the whole “Shock Doctrine” book that Tara held in season one. IDK.

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            • IATM says:

              CK, book Pam was given a choice from my understanding in ATD ( book 7) when Pam talks about her turning to Sookie.. but on TB IDK, if Pam will have had a choice or not?? i mean Eric had a choice from Godric to face the True death or die a final human death in the flashback scene in s2.. Godric could have healed Eric but he wanted him as a progeny.. so he created Eric.. vs. the book version Eric didnt have a choice ..Appuis turned Eric without giving him a choice.. this is more TB bull shit though since Billy was turned by Lorena after the civil war & didnt have choice.. however, Billy was starving to death..

              abyway, on TB AB might make Eric a stalker of Pam & he turns her or something & he might or might not have offered her a choice of becomming a vampire?? either way Pam on TB has appeared up to this point ( all 4 seasons) as someone who has embraced her vampirism regardless.. which is what Billy was complaining about for the last 3 frist seasons..**sigh** plus we dont know yet if AB will have Eric & Pam in a sexual relationship ( because their book counter parts did at one point have sex)..

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            • Krtmd says:

              I disagree here on book Pam. She wasn’t given a choice by Eric if she wanted to be turned. He watched her. He wanted her. He turned her.

              He made a good choice. Pam likes being a vampire, and it set something free inside her.

              But he certainly didn’t ask her permission first.

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            • IATM says:

              okay, that is cool, Eric didnt ask Pam in the books if she wanted to be turned.. but Eric did stalk her.. because , book Eric has 2 progines anyway & Pam in ATD did turn her in a comfort manner vs. the way Appuis turned him.. if memory serves me right in ATD Pam discusses her turning to Sookie & basically was okay with it.. she does say she “doesnt love Eric” in the manner that Sookie was asking though.. but she wasent A-Okay with her human life either.. so she embraced being turned..

              actually since we are on the subject of Turning, no-one in the books was actually asked permission to be turned?? not even Jake P in ATD.. Sookie would be the only one asked to be turned.. because book Eric has actually asked her.. & Sookie turned it down because she loves to Sun Bath & whatnot.. but so far who has CH provided in the books as a request to be turned ( Besides the Fangbanger’s that hang out at Fangtasia & wish to be turned)??

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            • C.K. says:

              True and Pam said that she was born to be a vampire and that she was just a silly girl who had a crush on some boy. I forget that book Pam was only what 19 when she was turned. I am glad they did the Jessica story in the show though and kept her on the show.

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            • IATM says:

              Right CK,

              Book Pammy is turned a Vampire at the age of 19.. Book Eric was turned a Vampire in his early 20′s Eric tells us in DAG (book 9) ( 21 or 22 at the most).. Billy was turned at the age of 30 in the books & Sookie was 25 in DUD.. so the irony on human terms Sookie is older then Eric & Pam… but they have lived a longer life the she & Eric had a maker like Appuis & whatnot..

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            • SVB says:

              We’re going pretty OT here ladies ;)

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            • Krtmd says:

              I would say Hadley. Although she’s actually dead dead by the time we meet her.

              And Miriam wanted to be turned so she wouldn’t die, or at least her brother made it seem like that’s what Miriam wanted.

              But most of the vampires we meet in CH’s world were forcibly turned.

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            • IATM says:

              was it told to us in DD ( book 6) that Hadley wanted to be a Vamp?? i dont remember it if she did.. but Hadley was a drug addict & a Fangbanger & maybe that was what she wanted.. because QSA wasent the one who turned Hadley anyway if memory serves me right in DD .. but i need to re-read DD for clarity.. Hadley turned Jake P.. & as for DR Pam’s interest she was a lover of course who was sick & Pam wanted to turn her into a Vampire.. doesnt that storyline mimick another?? Pam was banned from doing so & she was basically going to do it anyway.. However, Miaram was able to speak for herself like most Fangbanger’s actually.. when it comes to your quality of life.. Pam’s girlfriend was asking to be turned & Pam was forebidden to do so.. unlike Tara who was shot in the head in s4 & might become a Vamp by default.. so i can totaly see Tara’s character fliping out as a Jake P type if that is her outcome to be a Vampire.. because i surly dont want her on the Eric Team..

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            • C.K. says:

              I could see Tara becoming like a Jake P. if she were turned. Maybe they would have Pam or Eric be her maker. If Pam was Tara’s maker they could try ti make her look like a worse maker to Tara than Bill was to Jessica. It would reflect poorly on Eric too. Eric is supposed to be a good maker.

              If Tara has more of that kick*ss fierceness of season one she might have made a decent vampire. They would probably go the self-loathing route with Tara. If she even becomes a vampire.

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            • IATM says:

              oh God , i hope Eric nor Pammy is Tara’s Maker if Tara is a Vamp.. i would perfer Tara to be a Ghost that comes to Laffy all season..

              Tara being a Eric Team Vamp creator just fucks things UP IMO.. no matter if Sookie & Laffy begged Eric or Eric forced Pammy to save Tara.. all this means is that Laffy & Sookie “High Handed” made Tara’s choice & Tara will forgive Laffy & Sookie & hold a grudge agianst Eric or Pam … i mean seriously the Eric team doesnt need this on the team..

              OMG, what a clusterfuck of annoyance in s5 IMO.. all the one sided forgiveness & whatnot but they all are Christen folks ( Sookie)…

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            • C.K. says:

              Lala would have made an awesome vampire but they decided to go the medium route with him instead. At least he can drink his alcohol to drown his sorrows over Jesus and possibly Tara’s deaths. I miss happy Lala.

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            • IATM says:

              @ CK,

              Laffy asked to be turned in s2 , whereas Tara isnt able to make her own choice.. so her quality of life comes into question about what would Tara perfer??

              Laffy wouldnt mind being a Vamp because, he made it clear in s2 that he would pick that lifestyle over dying a final human death.. Tara hasent made that choice verbally, even though Tara makes a hell of alot BAD choices in her human life as it is…**sigh**

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        • IATM says:

          totaly true,

          Eric’s hair started getting darker like Billy’s in s2.. Sookie couldnt sleep with someone with blonde hair it had to be darker a Billy look-a-like.. Eric comming to her in s3 & telling her info was simply overlooked because Sookie couldnt possibly trust Eric or his word…

          the whole thing is a joke.. but it reminds me of DR a little.. the conversation when Eric asked Sookie if “she wanted him to be more like Billy”??

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          • C.K. says:

            Next season the Eric/Pam flashback will probably run something like the Bill/Lorena Chicago flashback. I am pretty sure that the flashback will consist of Eric and Pam killing, f*cking, and laughing there way throughout Europe (Pam has mentioned it twice). Probably it will be just as bad if not worse than the Bill/Lorena flashback to prove a point. I guess AB gets annoyed when some Eric fans say that Eric would never do something like what Bill did in Chicago(someone posted a qoute in the forum about that). No nice Pam/Eric flashback for us. I think SVB mentioned this too.

            However, I did want to see a flashback of savage Godric indoctrinating Eric this but we got the dream instead.

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            • Freyja says:

              ” I am pretty sure that the flashback will consist of Eric and Pam killing, f*cking, and laughing there way throughout Europe”

              And you know, Eric spitting out bones of supermodels and princesses. That is going to be so exciting to watch. Eric is becoming Bill and Bill is becoming Eric, awesome don’t you think? ;)

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            • Millarca says:

              When Pam spoke those lines I started worrying about what we were going to be treated to in flashbacks, but, on reflection, I really don’t see the point of showing us evidence of the things Pam was saying. Firstly, I think there was a dash of jealous ranting and a degree of hyperbole and metaphor in Pam’s words. Secondly, what would be the point? We’ve all seen the sheriff torturing people and ripping out hearts. Sookie knows what vampire Eric is capable of; what is important to her is the goodness at his core and the way she has seen him change. We are all capable of bad acts in certain circumstances. The Sookster herself has had her less than stellar moments: Talbot, for instance.

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            • hime says:

              I never expected Eric to be a saint. I think the flashback will involve Pam’s creation and maybe later a little snippet of Eric teaching her how to hunt and kill. Aaaand, why not? Eric and Pam are killers, they never made a secret of it. Also it will matter a lot which POV the flashback will be from, if Pam’s or Eric’s. I can see Pam remembering more fondly the wildest and cruelest times with Eric than Eric himself. :)

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            • Mony says:

              I pretty much agree HIme. They killed and fucked a lot in the books too. Things were different when vampires haven’t reveal their existence and they were definitely different at Pam’s time, victorian age. I think if Eric had turned Pam now there wouldn’t have been any killing and dancing in the blood, or at least not that much, like Jess.

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            • C.K. says:

              Millarca someone posted a qoute in one of the forums and I think it was an AB qoute where he mentioned that Pam meant what she said. IDK. I will try to find the qoute.

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            • C.K. says:

              I can’t find the qoute. I wouldn’t be surprised to see something bad though. It wasn’t like Godric was braiding Eric’s hair and Eric helping Godric with his dreadlocks. Lol Godric was savage for along time and Eric was with him so I never expected Eric to be a saint either.

              I wish they would have shown a flashback of Godric and Eric after Eric was turned though.

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            • Millarca says:

              Did the quote that Pam meant what she said relate to the bones of princesses comment or the fucking & killing & laughing comment, or both? I have no doubt they fucked & killed & laughed – they still do that – but I wonder what a vampire would be doing with the bones of supermodels and princesses. Blood, yes, bones, no, unless they had a nifty side business recycling their kills into fertilizer.

              Bill started out portrayed as good and we then saw some bad things. Eric started out portrayed as bad but we then saw some good things. The truth is that neither character is completely good or completely bad, and this fact of life about people generally is one of the themes of TB. Eric and Bill (and Pam) are vampires, and have done vampire things, and Eric has had much longer to do it and in that time, particularly the earier part, humans did some spectacularly bad things to each other anyway.
              But I am wandering of the point. I can’t help but wonder at the point of showing Eric literally sucking on the bones of supermodels and princesses. That’s the part I think is metaphor and hyperbole, to highlight Pam’s angry jealousy that Eric is demeaning himself for love of what she considers to be an inferior human with a stupid name. Though I’m still scared shitless that we are in fact going to see Eric doing something hideous with princess-shaped bones.

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            • fiendish says:

              I think the bones comment is just metaphor… the idea that you use people by sucking them in and spitting them out. You wouldn’t literally do that to someone, but the image is more powerful.

              I think Pam’s talking about how Eric has never been this attached before – he never particularly cared, and made it his mission to have his cake and eat it. Before Sookie, it was racking up notches on the bedpost (“wherever I am there will always be women…”)…also see the way he treated Yvetta… but Sookie is different – Eric as the player or ladies’ man who doesn’t give a shit is no more.

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            • Kirsten says:

              Exactly. I don’t know why everyone takes that particular comment so literally. They are vampires, not ghouls, there’s no literal reason for bone-spitting. It’s just a more graphic version of “he will chew you up and spit you out”.

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            • IATM says:

              i suspect your Right CK,

              i mean who cant “Fuck, Laugh & Kill” their way out of Europe?? **sigh** & they made it all the way to the America’s fucking & laughing & killing.. so if Pammy didnt have choice to become a vampire on TB then she surly embraced it afterwards regardless… i mean her moral code wasent getting in the way…

              there are so many examples of Billy stealing Eric’s idenity on TB & it started in s1.. Billy having Jessica is a mimick of Eric having other ppl to care for besides Sookie.. Pammy is Eric’s “baggage” as Eric’s power structure role is “baggage”.. same as Sookie’s baggage of her past of being mosleted & raped & yada,yada,yada.. hell dating Billy is baggage for the Viking “”snort**

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        • Krtmd says:

          I couldn’t agree more Gigi.

          The thing with the Longshadow incident, when taken alone, it doesn’t seem like such a big deal. (And lots of people like Jessica, so they’re happy with the change.) Like the fang rape comment from the beginning of this season as well. But, when you lay out all the incidences, it obviously fits into a larger pattern of deliberate character assassination.

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          • Freyja says:

            Yes that is what I have come to realize now :(

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            • Freyja says:

              And it’s not going to get better next season I’m sure.

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            • Cheryl says:

              Regardless what happens we all know one of two things will happen in S5. Eric or Pam will “save” Tara and Sookie will hate Eric for it. Or Queen Beehl will do it and Sookie will love him for it.

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        • hime says:

          @ Gigi – With all due respect I disagree. Many of the things you listed – the teacup humans scene, the dungeon, Eric crying in front of Sookie, his seek for revenge, etc – are exactly the reason why I like TB Eric that much. Others are simply flaws, and thank God Eric is not perfect, because perfection is boring to me. I don’t think the awfulness of the threesome couch scene is the obvious result of a character assassination that has been perpetrated since season 1. I may not like how season 4 went after episode 7, but that doesn’t mean I have to throw everything I’ve liked so far about TB Eric in light of this.

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          • Mony says:

            I’m gonna gree with you here Hime, with all due respect Gigi, but i can’t agree with your list because those are the things i actually loved, sorry :/

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        • [Exit, Pursued By A Sloth] says:

          Gigi said “7. The vengeance and lack of caring for Sookie KNOWING that RE went out to kill her (because he wanted to kill Talbot..)”

          Well, actually, about that…Eric took a great personal risk by sending Hadley to warn Sookie that RE was coming for him. Hadley wasn’t glamoured, and if she told on him or was caught leaving, he’d be screwed. Considering he bit her just a few hours ago, he had no guarantee of her loyalty, that she wouldn’t seek favor with her mistress and new master.

          And his killing Talbot actually saved Sookie. Had he not killed him when he did, RE would have surely turned Bill into a spot on the ground where the grass wouldn’t grow, and enslaved Sookie as his own little bottle of sunshine. And RE is three times Eric’s age, Eric probably wouldn’t win if they did battle, so what good would it have done for him to go to Sookie’s house and die. But he knew Russell would return the moment Talbot died. I’m not saying that the only reason he killed Talbot was to save Sookie, but he didn’t abandon Sookie just to kill him. Eric is a multitasker.

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        • Gigi says:

          @hime and @Mony
          With all due respect sis, we can only agree to disagree. The fact that you personally like and love some of those changes doesn’t change the fact that they are part of the personality changes that TB has made to the CORE of Eric’s character. As you has very well expressed Hime, that’s TB Eric, the NEW Eric. And BTW, the original character of Eric (BE) isn’t perfect. He’s a muldimensional and very well lawyered character. He does have flaws and I have highlighted them in a lot of past threads here. The main diference between his original flaws and the ones that TB has created for him is that they weren’t made as a plot device to take down his character in order to build up Bill’s, as ITAM has well said.

          @ Exit, Pursued By A Sloth
          I totally respect your idea, but we can only agree to disagree, too. Coincidences are coincidences. Eric wasn’t worried at ALL for Sookie when Russell left the mansion. If Eric had been worried about Sookie, he would have flown immediately to her house after killing Talbot. But he only went to Fangtasia for Pam and looking for a safe place to hide and protect themselves from RE. He never had a plan. He just got the chance to kill Talbot to avenge his family, and took it. All the revenge’s storyline was just a plot device to keep Eric out of scene to show how Bill and Jessica were fighting to protect Sookie.

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          • LLE says:

            Eric stake Talbot to protect Sookie and revenged for his family. If Russell was not after Sookie that night, Eric would not have stake Talbot.

            Eric knew that Sookie is or in danger and she was not in danger when he went to Pam. Pam suggest that were invited to Sookie and Eric said no because he did not want to put her any more danger.

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            • Gigi says:

              I respect your opinion LLE, we’re all entitled to have diferent opinions. But an opinion isn’t a fact. And the fact was that Eric never looked for Sookie, nor even after she was attacked and almost drained by Bill, until the night that he though he could use her fairy blood to save them all from RE. And he wasn’t a hostage of RE.

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            • LLE says:

              Eric was with Russell and he sure was not going to mention that he had to visit Sookie first before Pam. I wonder what Russell think if Eric had said those words. Pam was being torture and Eric felt it. Sookie was in a comma and Eric did not feel anything. Eric knows that every time Sookie is in danger Bill comes running and Bill did gave her blood to Sookie again. In season three, we never seen what Eric was feeling when he felt Sookie in danger. Eric did felt Sookie fear when he show up at her house and he did kill the were-wolf. Eric did hire Alcide has Sookie’s bodyguard and Alcide did help Sookie escaped Russell’s house.

              Season three Pam did come before Sookie but not anymore. Eric’s feeling deep every time he see her.

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            • Millarca says:

              Eric told Sookie to stay away from Jackson, but she rushed in screaming “Werewolf bait” just as he predicted she would. What duty did he owe her at the time? She got herself into that mess, and he had his own 1,000 year old agenda arising from his promise to his dying father. Sookie was not No. 1 priority.

              The timing of the Talbot staking, and what was in Eric’s mind when he struck, was definitely ambiguous. Could he feel Sookie’s distress at the time? Was saving her a priority or happy coincidence? We could discuss it for years and never influence each other to change our views.

              Eric refused to give Sookie over to Russell though, and ended up devising a plan that involved him sacrificing his own life to ensure Russell died, thus ensuring Sookie’s safety. And it pisses me off that this seems to have been forgotten in Season 4, with Eric having to be seen to be prepared to sacrifice himself to save her all over again, though this time with less chance of success since that plan required him to trust both Bill and Marnie, neither of whom was trustworthy.

              Damn show’s all over the place.

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            • LLE says:

              Eric does know when Sookie is in danger and he sure did lot things to help her out that Sookie just does not realized it.

              Eric was playing for time when he staked Talbot.

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          • [Exit, Pursued By A Sloth] says:

            Gigi said “I totally respect your idea, but we can only agree to disagree, too. Coincidences are coincidences. Eric wasn’t worried at ALL for Sookie when Russell left the mansion. If Eric had been worried about Sookie, he would have flown immediately to her house after killing Talbot. But he only went to Fangtasia for Pam and looking for a safe place to hide and protect themselves from RE. He never had a plan. He just got the chance to kill Talbot to avenge his family, and took it. All the revenge’s storyline was just a plot device to keep Eric out of scene to show how Bill and Jessica were fighting to protect Sookie. ”

            Sookie’s had Eric’s blood, so he doesn’t have to worry about Sookie after staking Talbot because he knows she’s fine. It had already been established at this point in the story that he’d feel her distress even at great distances. She wasn’t distressed, he wasn’t worried, and he isn’t going to do something horribly horribly stupid like run directly to Sookie after escaping Russell’s (like some idiot named Bill Compton did earlier, leading Russell right to her).

            And of course he’s not going to show worry for Sookie when he’s in the middle of the wolf den. He knows how to play the espionage game (unlike some other idiot named Bill Compton, who loses his shit at a 3,000 year old vampire the moment Sookie’s name is mentioned). How the hell could Eric express his worry for Sookie without blowing his cover, which would have gotten them all killed? He still has to rescue his baby girl, don’t forget.

            And you’ve ignored him sending Hadley after Sookie to warn her about Russell coming for her. That was a HUGE risk for him. Hadley wasn’t glamoured, and he had just attacked her a couple hours earlier, she could have easily run to Sophie-Anne and Russell and ratted out Eric. Which would have meant his death. He couldn’t run himself, so he sent a little dove off to deliver his message for him. That shouldn’t be discounted as something brave, something where he risked his life to help Sookie just because it wasn’t all big and bold and all action heroey. There’s more than one way to fight. Just because Eric wasn’t throwing punches doesn’t mean he wasn’t fighting to protect Sookie. He just did it in a far more effective (if less showy) way than Bill or Jess. Cause let’s face it, Jess and Bill weren’t much of a defense against Russell and his wolf pack, they were never gonna succeed. If Eric had joined them, they’d all be dead and Sookie’d be enslaved. But since Eric actually knows how to get shit done, they’re all still around.

            And yes, he went to Fangtasia to nab Pam and hide them, hide them anywhere but Sookie’s (she suggested it, and he vehemently vetoed it). Going to Sookie’s house would have been a spectacularly stupid idea when he had a 3,000 year old vampire on his tail out for vengeance. He knows RE is gunning for him now, he’s not about to drag Sookie to his side. He’s actually trying to protect her by not dragging her in the path of danger, and he didn’t until absolutely forced (and even then, he was still saving her ass, even if he had to bruise it to do it, but it was still a hell of a lot better than Bill’s plan of Drive Away Slowly in This Shitty Ass Car). And again, she’s had his blood, he knows if she’s in danger. She was safe after the Talbot staking, he had no cause for worry.

            As for the draining, that happened during the day. Eric couldn’t have gone to her if he wanted (because, you know, all the bursting into flames), not to mention he was in New Orleans at the time. Bill arrived back at the hospital at first dark, and immediately started giving her blood, which would have begun the healing process. Eric would have felt her begin to heal. Pam is still in the Magister’s custody, he can’t run off from Russell yet, or he’s signing his child’s death warrant. Pam isn’t rescued until after Sookie had already woken up.

            No, he probably didn’t have a set plan from the start, but set plans aren’t the best course of action when going into a situation basically blind. He knew he wanted to save Pam (and later, save Sookie and get revenge), but he really didn’t know what he was gonna find in Jackson. So he improvised a lot, he thought on his feet and adapted to the situation. I don’t see how that’s a negative.

            Don’t forget, Eric didn’t go to Jackson to get his revenge. He went there to save Pam. He gets there, and he finds his family’s murderer. And then fucking Sookie shows up. Now he has to save Pam from the Magister (which he has a limited time frame to work with), get revenge, save Sookie, and maybe, if he’s very lucky, save his own ass, all while pretending to be someone he’s not. He was being pulled from all directions at once. And yet, he still managed to get the job done, even if he didn’t always look good doing it.

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            • Gigi says:

              [And you've ignored him sending Hadley after Sookie to warn her about Russell coming for her. That was a HUGE risk for him... Which would have meant his death. He couldn't run himself, so he sent a little dove off to deliver his message for him.]

              With all due respect, you have to excuse me, EPBAS, but this isn’t right. Eric didn’t sent Hadly to warn Sookie about Rusell coming for her. Eric sent Hadley to tell Sookie not to trust Bill. But Bill (and Jessica) were the only ones available to defend her. Because nor even Alcide were there to help her. That’s my point of how the revenge plotline was used to keep him away and to show how Billy loves her enough to fight with a 3,000 y/o vampire, no matter how stupid it were. Because when Eric sacrifice himself, he were doing it to save not just Sookie, but also his own ass and Pam’s.

              [...and he isn't going to do something horribly horribly stupid like run directly to Sookie after escaping Russell's (like some idiot named Bill Compton did earlier, leading Russell right to her).
              And of course he's not going to show worry for Sookie when he's in the middle of the wolf den.]

              Exactly my point, again. All the revenge’s storyline was just a plot device to keep Eric out of scene to show how Bill and Jessica were fighting to protect Sookie.

              [He knows how to play the espionage game (unlike some other idiot named Bill Compton, who loses his shit at a 3,000 year old vampire the moment Sookie's name is mentioned). How the hell could Eric express his worry for Sookie without blowing his cover, which would have gotten them all killed? He still has to rescue his baby girl, don't forget.]

              Ditto, and now that you mentioned it, this is also another proof of how his character has been tweaked to look much more like Bill. Because with and without amnesia, since the first episode of this season Eric has been acting like Beel at the firsts seasons, and saying his same words to Sookie: “You’re mine” and willing to kill everyone that came close to her. And the closing act of the season was his attitude against his baby girl. Because he threatened to kill her because of Sookie (…after they were fucking and killing and blah blah for centuries in Europe, which doesn’t matters if was true or not) but is indeed another plot device to show how well has been developing the relationship between Bill and Jessica and how much they have grown as a Master and Child. Because Jessica’s character has been introduced in TB in order to replace Pam’s role in the original story.

              Bottom line is that AB doesn’t care at all to destroy Eric, Pam and even Sookie’s original character in order to make that Queen Beel shines like the star he wants him to be.

              And don’t take it wrong, I’m not against Eric. Most of the old people here know how much I love Eric original character and that I’m actually very proud to be called a rabid fan. But I’m not willing to play the Bitch’s manupulation game and buy a pig in a pole, as I told LEE before. I’m not buying this shallow and lame story that should be called “Sookie the doormat and her abuser Queen Beel”, nor I’m buying the new Eric that he has created as a secondary character to be used as a plot device on it.

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            • Josie says:

              Your too good! I totally agree……

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          • LLE says:

            Eric could had told Russell “Can we stop at the hospital first so I can give Sookie blood before we go rescue Pam.” That would been more a Bill’s move not Erics’s.

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        • Gigi says:

          @LLE
          [Eric was with Russell and he sure was not going to mention that he had to visit Sookie first before Pam.]

          Of course LLE, Eric didn’t have the need to mention it, just needed to do it after he knew she was attacked by Bill or/and by Rusell IF she had been more important than his revenge.

          [Sookie was in a comma and Eric did not feel anything. Eric knows that every time Sookie is in danger Bill comes running and Bill did gave her blood to Sookie again.]

          You are right, Sookie was in a comma and while she was on it, Eric couldn’t feel her. But this season TB has shown that Eric felt Sookie strong enough to awaken him when she returned from Fairyland. Based on that fact as a premise, then, before she was in a comma, he must have awaken and felt the terror, pain and anguish she was feeling when Bill attacked her. He didn’t even knew if Bill was still alive because Bill was almost dead when they escaped, and he doesn’t have a way to “feel” Bill. But the issue isn’t if he felt her or not. The issue is that TB didn’t show it in any scene and only showed and highlighted everything that was relevant to his revenge. And everything that wasn’t shown is just simply speculation.

          That isn’t popcorn for smart people. That’s to buy a pig in a pole. Which in very simple words is called manipulation

          Because that’s the real problem with this story. That it is shallow and lame, and you have to imagine or think “WHAT IF…” (which is indeed to speculate) all the time regarding Eric, without never know for sure if things happens the way you imagined. This incidentally return me to the original point of my post above, which is that Eric’s original character has been destroyed in order to build up Bill’s, and everything that matters for TB is to show what Bill does. And quoting AB’s words in an interview at the begining of the series, this is the story of Beel and Sookeeh and when the others characters aren’t in scene, they don’t exist.

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          • Josie says:

            It has become An Eric and Sookie Story now through their presentation and how we have accepted them. I want them to have more scenes together and for them to live happily ever after and through her fae powers get married and have children. I only want to see their adventures and a few people to work or support their stories so we can see more of them together. Their humor and romance and problems are so engaging for us to get lost in. I could care less about Bill or the rest of them. For the two seasons they have left indulge our fantasies with the people we want to watch.

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    10. Northwoman says:

      MAS, your witty and insightful recaps will be missed. Your teacup human will undoubtedly change your daily routine, but the rewards will be well worth it. Or so I’ve been told by my friends with children.

      Please pop in to Sookieverse Blog occasionally for a visit!

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    11. slayer99 says:

      Ma,

      Your recaps have been as entertaining (if not more so) than True Blood itself. Suffice to say, I’m not looking forward to next season other than Russell Edgington and Steve Newlin’s return. Russell was a great character and Steve will definitely bring the camp. That being said, this show HAS gone completely off the rails. When it started I thought they’d at least TRY to stick with the books thematically, but now it’s apparent that it’s an entity all to itself.

      As for your Season 4 recaps, you pretty much hit on all the reasons I’ve been disappointed with True Blood this season. The S4 finale left me…underwhelmed.

      While I hope you can find the time to do the recaps, if you can’t…thank you very much for your time, insight and humor…they’ll be missed.

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    12. hime says:

      I’m sorry to hear you won’t recap any longer, MAS. I’ll miss them a lot.
      I won’t comment on the episode – I’m quite disheartened but not nearly as many of you are.

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      • Mony says:

        “I’m quite disheartened but not nearly as many of you are.” – me too Hime.

        I won’t comment, but i will say a BIG THANK YOU MAS for the amazing job you did all these years! Lots of your recaps were better than the episodes lol. I can’t imagine a week during TB w/out your recaps :( I’ll miss them A LOT. But as a said thank you, you were, and you still are, superbe! <3
        And thank to SVB too ;)

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    13. eviehelloellosweetheart says:

      I just feel very sad after reading that – sad for the show, sad for all of us who love the Sookie Stackhouse story and sad that I won’t get any more MAS recaps.

      I am not even going to start off again on the 2 couch scenes, I am not, I am not, I am not, I am not.

      :(

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    14. Swedeheart says:

      Best of luck MAS! And thank you so much for all your recaps. They’ve been amazing. As for the episode… I’ve got nothing left on that one. I’m done.

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    15. eddy says:

      Mas
      As usual you your insight calms me down and I see things in perspective once again.
      The last few shows have made me feel nauseous with apathy( I have been mooning around at work unable to tell anyone that a TV SHOW has made me feel like this ).
      But there has been some highlights along the long long way.

      Channel 4 in the UK are screening s3 on terrestrial TV and I cant believe the difference in watching quality, I had forgotten how good it was compared to this season.
      What they have done to Pam’s character ……
      I can’t go on everyone has already said everything that I need to say.

      However I totally agree with you that AB just isn’t interested in the show anymore, does he actually watch any of it before it is shown?

      What really galls me is the smugness of the writers, ex producers etc in the inside TB over on HBO, thinking that they are churning out stuff that we’re lapping up with joy.

      MAS we’ll miss you you’re last two paragraphs actually had me blubbing, all the luck in the world to you all

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    16. Maja says:

      MAS thank you for all your recaps, always enjoyed reading… and it’s a shame you won’t do it again…but I understand very well what it means to be 1st time mum – good luck and hope all goes well.
      It has been a week now and the feeling of disappointment still lingers…and I am sure it will stay…at least I hope it will help me to detach myself from the show and watch it with not much expectations. They cocked up big time and i really don’t see it’s possible to fix it at all. As AB is leaving after next season I think it will only get worse..his heart is half in it and there are too many writers who it seems don’t communicate well or don’t give a damn…when i look at other some websites it’s depressing to see how people loved the whole thing – but i guess everybody is entitled to their opinion…but I want to see characters that are consistent, deep, believable and who can relate to each other, it’s not only about naked AS :) They are going to loose more insightful audience but we are probably minority. My husband tells me I should seriously get a life and get out more :) but I swear I never got into the tvshow/books as much as I got into this for some reason…it was my little escapism and I hate, hate what they did to it…not fair at all…there are still books to come, so not that bad after all.

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    17. missfee says:

      thank you MASpencer, you have brought such talent, humor and insight to us. best of luck with tiny teacup :) will miss your recaps.

      as for this season. meh. i just managed to have a full nights sleep on a sunday for the first time since this fan fuckery fiasco started. its a relief. wont be watching next season. now without recaps there is even less reason to.

      still hanging out here with you fab folks though cos we gots the books to discuss

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    18. Lyta says:

      all my favorite recapers will no longer to do the recaps of the show, and although I will really miss reading them, I can not expect them to do something I’m not willing to watch more. Thanks for the good work and good humor, even when the show was horrible, made ​​us laugh immensely. And congratulations for the baby.

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    19. Gigi says:

      [*STANDING OVATION*
      And that’s not just for this week, but for every one of these recaps you’ve slaved over for the last two seasons, MAS. You are so talented and funny, and I have to tell ya, your insight has given me a new way of looking at things on this show more times than I care to count.
      If I ever start a parenting site you can come and write about the best way to get green peas out of white suede couches any time, because I know you’d make that shit as funny as hell.
      It’s been such an honour to get to know you as I have over the last two years and I hope that when this teacup of yours arrives you still have time to hang out.]

      Ditto. And only wanted to add that you have made an outstanding work and I admire you and take off my hat for your objectivity (and your patience lol). I’m very proud of you and L-O-V-E you girl! With or without recaps (you already know it, but I wanted to say it again). And I send you all my blessings in this new, wonderful and exciting ride of motherhood.

      Now, regarding this season and the finale…

      Most of you know that I actually saw this coming more than two years ago and I told it here. I screamed, I ranted, I WROTE all about what was coming. Very few believed me. Some needed to have hope and some other had thought I had some kind of obsesion or prejudice against the Bitch. I was even charged of being negative… Nothing further from reality. I wasn’t negative, I was realistic. I only was reading the signs on the road.

      And I’m not happy about it. I’m truly very sorry. Because in fact, the Bitch has fucked up this story worse than I could ever imagine. The issue isn’t that the bitch has made a new story and new characters using the original name’s from the SVM. The issue is that his story is shit. It sucks BIG TIME.

      Whatever…

      So.. I just want to know how Tara knew that Marnie had came back and killed the BRRRUJO and why Rene was still faking his canjun accent after his death. WAIT, I forgot.. I DONT CARE!!!
      (because TB writers don’t care…)

      Oh! Arlene’s daughter with a costume of a trashy pregnant Ho for Halloween… sweet *roll eyes*

      BTW… Newlin looks too healthy, pink and alive to be a vampire. It was Halloween night, so he could have been wearing fake fangs. Just sayin’…

      And IMHO, Tara isn’t dead. Nope. She’ll be saved by any of Sookie’s puppies or perhaps by RE to add some drama. And she’ll be turn into one of these (please, choose only one… *roll eyes*):
      a. Bubba
      b. The super vampire fighter that will kick Pam’s ass…
      c. Pam’s lover
      d. All of the above

      *roll eyes again* …twice

      [I wanted to hide behind my couch during the entire mess, you guys. That’s how embarrassed I was for this show on Sunday night.]

      I know… I know… I also felt embarrased for them.

      [Speaking of couches and embarrassment... Needless to say, it’s not a good look on anyone… including (and maybe especially) Sookie.
      Was this the intention? I don’t know—and I don’t know if I care, either. Because, however you interpret it, there were so many things wrong with this scene, I don’t even know where to start.]

      For me it was obvious that the intention of that scene was to make all us to react like Pam at the end: “I’m so over Sookie and her precious fairy vagina and her unbelievably stupid name. FUCK SOOKIE!” That was the way he wanted us to react.

      That was the way he wanted us to react. That was the summary and the objective of all his work and fun during all these years. Achieve that every viewer hates Sookie.

      (But that’s wasn’t even original because in all his works the important women characters are bitches that everyone hates, so there’s nothing new about it).

      AB is a fucking genius… yeah. But he keeps forgeting that most of us (even the gays) aren’t gay AND misogynist like him. Way to go in his efforts to have fun destroying Sookie’s character and expressing his hate to women. He should hire himself a shrink while he can. Because he doesn’t understand that while he doesn’t forgive the bitch of his past, he’ll be THE BITCH forever and ever.
      AMEN.
      (…and he could close his door with HBO… ju$t $ayin’).

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      • VampirePamsGirl says:

        Totally agree Gigi with everything you wrote!

        Really wish that I was not one of those people that tried to stay positive and hold out hope for this show, I think I’d have been a lot happier if I would have quit watching a long time ago.

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    20. Thank you Mas, I’ll miss your witty, talented,fun re-caps and insight. It’s only this site and your re-caps that got me through this seasons fucked-up-ness..

      You know, I used to tell everyone how great TB was and defended the show from the usual label of Vampire-Porn, but now I’m actually embarressed to recommend it to any one ..

      So congradulations Mas,and thank you again for taking the time out of your life to so graciuosly entertain us(hugs)Looking forward to seeing your Avi around the board, when-ever you get the time!! Also thanks to SVB for creating an awsome site and maintaining it with dignity ,intelligence and fairness(Oh fun too). If I no longer recommend TB to people, I know,I will still tell them “If your looking for a good time,call SVB” LOL(wink)

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    21. krtmd says:

      MASpencer – I can’t help flashing back to last year at this time, and think of the joy I felt. Bill Compton had been outed. Sookie had rescinded his invitation, and S3 had been a fun, wild ride. I was a lurker then, but it was your recaps and the insightful analysis by all the people here that convinced me to join in the fun – something you all may regret, since I never shut up – and I have never been sorry.

      What a difference a year makes.

      I will miss your delightful recaps, and I can honestly say that you have never failed to deliver the funny. Good on ‘ya. I sincerely hope the rest of your pregnancy goes smoothly, and wish you and Mr. MAS nothing but the best as you welcome your own teacup. Eric is right, they are delicious.

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    22. wahoozit says:

      Sorry to hear you are stepping away MASpencer. Congratulations on your impending bundle of assorted stenches and baby induced lobotomisation :D .
      Hope everything goes without a hitch.
      I will miss your recaps.

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    23. NorthernSoul says:

      MAS, congrats on the teacup human! Your musings will be greatly missed; every week I would check obsessively for your recap, and enjoyed it as much (sometimes MORE) than the show.

      Is it possible to be a fan girl of fan girls? Cause I totally am! I’ve grown to love the TB fandom, (especially this site and Andy & Brian over at Camp Blood) and when the show slides downhill, I know I can go to certain sites and rant/get comic relief. I need it now more than ever. :-(

      The sad thing is, this show had the potential to be one of the greatest series ever. It blended camp and art effortlessly (at least during the first two seasons)and now just goes for melodrama and shock value, a la a bad daytime soap. The writers are good, which is why there’s no excuse for what we’re getting. It’s so frustrating to see a season start off with such promise and get sloppier than a hoarder’s home. For me, this is the greatest tragedy; I think of what could have been, and I just get a sad, sinking feeling. Like it was pointed out, I can’t recommend this show anymore, either. That being said, I still plan to watch next season, but the excitement and anticipation have waned. In the past there was this huge hole after the TB finale, this year not so much. I’m excited about other shows, but am completely “meh” about season 5.

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      • ATW says:

        Northernsoul, I too am truly sad about what could have been. This could have been meaningful television. It could have been art! What a novel fucking idea! Alan Ball has committed a crime and wasted an amazing opportunity. I’m out.

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    24. Kathy says:

      I’ll miss your recaps MAS they were always a riot. I too am basically done with the show. Not because I didn’t enjoy this season, I did to a degree more than any other season, but my expectations were so low I was able to laugh. But the OOCing, the aforementioned couch scenes, the HOLES and especially Pam have made me truly not care anymore. As fun as Russell is, I just can’t see where they’re going to go with him. Steve interests me but I’m not sure that’s enough to tune in next summer.

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    25. djones says:

      NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Say it ain’t so! I will truly miss you and your amazing recaps. You are a very intelligent individual and your analasis of the show makes me wish you were on the writing team, more so than the ppl that are actually on it. Your recaps were a great combo of insight, humour and “Oh Sh@#” moments that I must admit, made my day every week when I read them. I wish you all the best in this new chapter of your life!

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    26. momzombie says:

      MAS your recaps are always so full of win! I’ll miss you next season. Best wishes with the new baby.

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    27. Zarwyn says:

      Will miss your recaps! I completely agree with your assessment. I think this was the worst season yet and I had really been looking forward to seeing Book 4 on screen as it is probably one of my favorites in the book series – BIG disappointment. I knew there was something seriously wrong when I found myself enjoying “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” – which I just finally watched for the first time on Netflix – more than I was enjoying TB. I will be watching next season, however, because, like you, I am a big Rev Steve and Russell fan and will hold out some hope that they can save Season 5.

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    28. Skarlove says:

      MAS, I wish you and your growing family all the best. You have captured my feelings on the finale perfectly – and more eloquently than I ever could have. Your wit, your snark, your blunt way of tellin’ it like it is and your incredible way of getting to the heart of what makes these characters tick will be sorely missed. I’ve read your recaps from the beginning and you’ve never ceased to add a deeper layer of understanding to this show for me.

      Thank you so much for all the work you’ve put in – it’s truly been a pleasure coming along for the ride. Hope to see ya around in the forum when the new bundle of joy is napping once in a while :) !

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    29. white.lily says:

      Thank you for all the fantastic recaps and the fun and joy while reading these. I will sincerely miss your weekly insights but understand your decision to step away from these, esp. with a tiny human on its way.
      Thanks also to SVB for this amazing site which is a great home within this fandom.

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    30. Liliput says:

      I love your take on things. I’ve never commented before, but have really enjoyed reading your recaps, and most especially, this one!

      I won’t comment on the episode specifically as you have taken care of that already, but two things about this season do occur to me. I am now convinced that the writers, consciously or not, use Pam as a sort of soothsayer to express their own personal opinions on the characters. She was spot on in her assessment of Bill as a “self loathing, power hungry little dork…” and her rant on how sick she is of Sookie seemed to be reflected in the crap job and lack of care they took with her role in general.

      Also, the fact that the creative team has pretty pretty much left the building is rather evident in the background music they are now using for the show. What the heck happened to that beautifully haunting, evocative cello or double bass music they used to platy in season 1? It was so perfectly crafted to the mood of the season, the setting and the characters. I used to find myself humming it. Now we are treated to generic soap opera “this is a tragic/exciting/funny/who the eff cares” almost elevator music to underscore a scene. (Obviously, I’m not referring to the contemporary songs they use to title their episodes or others in the show, just the studio background music which seems to have been outsourced to One Life to Live! I seriously keep expecting Erica Caine to step out!!)

      Best of luck to you with your baby, and thank you so much for all the time and care you put into this over the years! Standing ovation, indeed!!

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      • Gretchen says:

        OMG! You are so right. The music this seasoned sucked. Even the ending credits songs were bad. And every time I heard their lame-ass sounds for vampire speed (I thought they were supposed to be quiet for fucks sake!) or for were/shifter change, I just cringed. And the cheesy score that overpowered the first Sookie/Eric kiss was worse than anything. No passion or heat, just cheese (same with their sex scenes). And the way he grabbed her hair and held her (staged and lame). And then cut to Pam’s totally OOC move by giving away Eric to Queen fucking Bill. It was terrible, unforgivable. That is where everything went to shit for me.

        I can’t even talk about Narnia. (closes eyes and shakes head.) Alan Ball assassinated Eric Northman and his lover Sookie Stackhouse. For Bill.

        What the fuck, Alan Ball?

        I hope Charlaine Harris has called HBO and given them a piece of her mind. And bitched slapped Ball.

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        • danielik25 says:

          AB doesn´t want to see, that Alex has the most fans from TB cast, he loves his Beel forever… So many series and movies have storylines like in books and people like it, why must be TB characters absolutely difference like in CHH books?

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    31. Cheryl says:

      Just want to say your recaps will be missed.

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    32. Gabbie says:

      Thanks for the recaps and laughs!! Best of luck with your teacup human!!

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    33. GeekGirlSTL says:

      So sorry I will have have your wonderful and witty writing to look forward to in the future, but then again, it would be a waste of your talent to spend anymore time on the trainwreck that is now True Blood!

      Congratulations on your soon-to-be Mommyhood! I hope you keep us posted :)

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      • GeekGirlSTL says:

        oops…”will not have your wonderful and witty writing…”…claiming a case of the Mondays in my typing skills. *blush*

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    34. Tara says:

      What a bitter-sweet ending. MAS, you’re amazing! You’re the one review I eagerly anticipate every week. You’re insightful and hilarious. I’ll be sad to see you go, but I’m so incredibly happy for you and your growing family.

      As for the episode….well that’s bitter-sweet too. I’m not going to reiterate the obvious, and everyone has done a fine job of saying just how I feel. I’m so upset how this ended, and the poor quality of the last few episodes, but at the same time I’m happy that TB no longer has a hold on me (which technically is a bad thing). I’ll give season 5 a shot, but I might watch it on demand after the airing date (my way of protesting). I get the feeling this might be their last season :-(

      Thank you MAS, thank you SVB! It’s always a pleasure coming to this site and I appreciate all the time you spend making it a wonderful place to visit.

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    35. IATM says:

      Congrats Maspencer on the little ones arrival..

      Awsome recap by the way..

      i have offically stop being mad at TB outcomes.. i find too many things on the ridiculous side ( Jessica hooking up with Jason just because she gave him some of her blood & stoped him from turning into a werepanther for the time being, Tara getting shot & returning, Gran pulling spirits out, Sookie allowing both Vamps to feed from her seems like a TB Comic book move if memory serves me right from the TB comic skit)… Regular Eric thinking that Sookie would actually be “His” while Billy is around & she still loves him & asked for Billy’s forgiveness & told Regular Eric that he has lied to both her & Billy so how could she ever trust such a Viking, when she forgives her rapist, & drainer/ stalker.. that would be mindboggling…

      things that dont remoetly interest me for s5 is Quinn showing up.. Alcide telling Sookie after dumping Debbie to basically stop dating Vamps & Sookie telling him she cant help who she LOVES.. **roll eye’s** i mean for goodness sake he & Debbie already saw Sookie rolling in the hay outside with AE…

      anyway, to not start a rant about something i feel i’m over.. Russell & Steve comming back is only a little bit interesting.. But IDK, if i find Russell comming back enough for me to actually watch s5 as a Sunday must watch.. it might just stay a DVR watch..

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    36. gee says:

      Many thanks for all the entertainment and common sense you have provided. Looking back I can’t believe how AB and his writers drove this show into the ground particularly over the last four episodes of this season.

      How sad is it that all we are left is apathy.

      Good luck with your new addition and don’t desert us altogether.

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    37. skargasmic says:

      First and foremost, BRAVO MAS! Excellent recap, all of which have been very very good but this was the best for me. I am feeling really nostalgic at the moment. It feels like the final nail in the coffin of what the latter part of the season has been. It is also the beginning of a whole new world for you, a world full of crappy diapers, spitting up on your blouse and you will love every minute of life with your teacup human.

      I have lost the emotional attachment to the show as it stands right now, I don’t feel the same investment as

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    38. skargasmic says:

      I once had. I hit post by accident….LOL! I am not sure if that will change or if I will even miss the show but I do know I will miss the HELL out of your recaps. Good Luck with MommyHood!

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    39. trarecar says:

      You are a wonderful writer, MAS, and I will miss you. Immerse yourself in the Zen that is mommyhood and forget about the cesspool TB has become. You need positive karma to be a happy mommy. LOL Come by and visit tho, please! Even if you don’t do recaps still post, because you are witty and awesome and are always good for a laugh. *hugs*

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    40. Accol says:

      I don’t know about the other moms and dads out there, but I watched a lot of movies during the first six months of twins. Hopefully that means you, MASpencer, will stop by here occasionally to add comments to posts. Your recaps have been an indispensable part of my TB experience for the last two seasons.

      On to the episode. Like you, I was excited about Steve Newlin and KRE. For one, Season 2 will stand out as the high point of this show, so bringing Steve Newlin’s campiness back is great in my book. Second, KRE is easily the best villian that TB has ever had. Complex and deadly. I started watching TB because it was going to be a sexy show about vampires. The show has so many sideshows, that the Vampire theme has almost been lost in the noise. I’ll be excited if we return to the S2 high point in S5 with more focus on the Vampires.

      To paraphrase Godric, we deserve it and I hope for it.

      I hope SVB’s site traffic includes some of the writers/directors/producers. Maybe fans of Book 4 were asking for the world to have S4 be all about the Viking. Certainly we did not get that in a way that we recognized, and I truly hope that they go back to the drawing board for S5. Bring in a fangirl consultant to tell you when your characters are going OOC or you aren’t being consistent to your own established canon.

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    41. C.K. says:

      I think there is a misconception that book fans expect an exact replica of the books and not the case.If I wanted or expected a carbon copy of the books then I would not have stuck with the show for four seasons. It gets a little annoying that people who complain about the show get an accused of being book purists and want an exact replica of the books(Some people probably do). It’s not true in many cases. Lala, Jess, and Godric are fans favourites so obviously people do not expect the show to exactly follow the books. I love Lala and am glad they did not kill him off. I was even happy with the Godric storyline (even though some were not and after reading posts I get why they have a problem with him and understand that). It just doesn’t even feel like it’s keeping to the “spirit of the books” at this point. That slumber party scene was horrific to watch and felt like a joke. Fans do take E/S seriously and I felt like they made a mockery of it. I couldn’t even believe what I was watching. A part of if was the continuation of the ridiculous love triangle. I just did not buy it. I am sorry don’t buy and cannot fathom how she could love them both equally. Some stuff in this show just makes no sense anymore. I think another part of the problem is the short timeline. Also, it really bothered me that just sweep the Rats under the rug. Sookie still makes excuses for Bill. She still says he lied to her to protect her. No not all of his lies were to protect her. He did not try to kill Eric twice to protect her. Bill wanted to bury is secrets so he tried to kill Eric. Sookie even asks her “abuser” to forgive her(for lusting after Eric while with Bill? IDK)Sookie is supposed to be in love with Eric yet she defends Bill for trying to kill Eric.

      I feel that Alex really embodies the role of Eric and he really gets the character. It is upsetting that it seems like they have damaged E/S storyline. It could have been something really beautiful but now it has been cheapened and they made it into some joke (with this damn senseless so called love triangle).

      I felt that Eric was emasculated, rejected, and humiliated all in one scene. That should have been a conversation that E/S had alone(same with Bill/Sookie). Instead Sookie rejected Eric twice in Bill’s house and the second time in front of Bill. They could have showed a little more repsect to their relationship. There have been a lot of couch scenes this season. Bill’s couch can be remnamed the “couch of despair”.

      Thank you for the wonderful recaps Mas Spencer and all the time you put into them. Congratulations on your “tiny tea cup human”.

      Charlotte,”What on earth have you done with poor Mr. Darcy (Mr. Northman)” (Pride and Prejudace 2005 movie version).

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      • IATM says:

        Not to mention the “Fang Rape” that Sookie told AE he did.. but not once mention Billy draining her to a bloody pulp in s3 … Gosh!! what has the world came too?? Sookie is capable of forgiving Billy for his transgression & keep reminding the Viking of his…

        this sounds like a one sided forgiveness… or lopsided forgiveness & Sookie is so kind & whatnot…

        basically sleeping with Eric is A- Okay, but he lies to her & Billy & that gives her a huge question mark about the Viking.. Go Figure !!

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        • C.K. says:

          Oh and when Pam mentioned that Bill that is wouldn’t be the first time Bill tried to kill Eric and her. Sookie’s response, “Yah because Eric tasted me.” Then in the finale she uses that “protection/love” excuse again. I just thought, “Here we go again.” Not everything he did was to protect Sookie. Also, Sookie broke up with Bill in the season 3 finale so this should not have seemed like another break up.

          This is how Book Sookie closed the door on Bill. This is after the QSA reveal.

          Bill to Sookie: “I love you,” he said stubbornly, as if that fact were so amazing and such an undeniable truth that I should believe him. Well, I had, and look at where it had gotten me.

          Sookie to Bill:“Those are not a magical formula,” I said. “They’re not going to open my heart to you.”

          Sookie in her narrative: “Bill was over a hundred and thirty years old, but at that moment I felt I could match him. I dragged myself inside, shut the door behind me and locked it, and made myself go down the hall to the bedroom” (Unfortunately she was with Quinn at the time but I won’t go into a Quinn rant) ( pg 319 Definitely Dead).

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          • IATM says:

            not too mention by DD ( book 6) Sookie had already been raped & drained by Billy & 1 yr has passed already since DTTW occured & book 5 (DAAD) & she was calling herself dating Quinn in DD when she found out that Billy’s true mission was to procure her…

            plus she lost her mind in this scene since she left the hospital in her hospital gown & walking down the street talking to herself… WTF?? i mean she broke up with the rapist/stalker/ sexual abuser in CD ..However, Sookie did re-consider a reunion with her & Billy in DAAD.. so maybe that was the shock of finding out the truth about Billy in DD?? i ponder on that so much really..

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        • C.K. says:

          It is good that Sookie chose to be alone at the end of this season but her reason was f*cked up. She basically said she couldn’t choose between these two guys so she chooses to be alone. She doesn’t want to hurt to hurt either of them but she ends up hurting Eric beyond words. She made it about the guys when it should have been her needing time to get her stuff together.

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          • IATM says:

            CK,

            Sookie called herself calling it quits with both Vamps at the end of CD.. & at the start of DTTW she was already willing to listen to Billy’s cry baby tone of what really was the deal.. however, since CH wrote Billy out of the picture for a while Sookie found comfort in AE ( a dude that doesnt know who he is.. besides she suffer’s with Idenity issues herself as a whole between the entire series )..i mean am i Fae or Human?? Eric loves both sides of Sookie however.. but at the end of the day, what does Sookie want?? she wants Billy to be like Eric for some strange reason on TB & possibly in the books as well.. does first love really take you to this level ?? I dont think so personally.. this is a teenager menatality not an adult whatsoever IMO..

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            • C.K. says:

              True and I think book Sookie let Bill comb her hair too at the end of CD (which I always found kind of creepy since he said he used comb his little sisters hair). Sometimes I do have issues with book Sookie too but I like her a lot more than show Sookie.

              I guess book Sookie sometimes uses Bill looking out for her as an excuse too. He stalks around in her woods and she says he is just looking out for her. Show Sookie seems to take defending Bill to a different level though IDK

              I think one of the big problems is the timeline. The first three seasons take place over 2 to 2 1/2 months. Then they skip ahead a year but it’s only a few hours for Sookie. Book Sookie had more time.

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            • IATM says:

              Book Billy was always a creepy man IMO.. & Sookie with the whole hair thing was childish also..

              out of the entire book series this far if Eric goes crazy like Billy then some Eric fans are all mad.. but i totaly understand his frustration on the Sookie front.. i mean for peets sake Billy goes crazy & Sookie forgives all crazyiness.. Eric bites without finesse & he is in the wrong.. Sookie has been stringing Eric along for 11 books going on 12 & 13.. he isnt aloud to snap because it’s consdiered abuse Vampire style simply biting the chick w/out finesseing it.. how much can Eric sugar coat all the realness for Sookie about being a Vampire??

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            • C.K. says:

              IATM sometimes it does seem like book Eric can never live up to Sookie’s expectations. Eric gets stuck paying for Bill’s mistakes in the books and I guess in the show. I think Sookie places Bill’s faults on Eric. Sorry, we are getting off topic though.

              I think last season Russell menioned that “Bill has been Lorena’s drug of choice for centuries.” It seems like a similar thing with Bill/Sookie.

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            • IATM says:

              Yup CK,

              i mean Book Sookie in CD called Eric’s blood like “spiderman”/ “Superman”.. LOL, in s3 Sookie was decalring Billy’s blood “all powerfull” superman like..**eye roll**

              anyway, to ease the trouble mind of the Sookie Lover’s ( Sookie has hope).. but as a female strong Eric & Pam Lover i feel this team got screwed in AB’s story.. i mean Tara & Jessiac as a Sookie doppel doesnt help Sookie’s cause IMO.. nor does it help me lean torwards Tara or Jessica..

              i feel totaly betrayed as a bookie ( & i wasent looking for the writer’s to write a copy of the books).. But i didnt expect thixs bull shit either.. i need to stop before i start a rant..,

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            • C.K. says:

              Oh yah IATM Pam got screwed on a monumental level this season. This would have been a excellent opportunity to show Pam’s strength and why Eric chose her as his child and it was wasted. I was so excited that Pam would get her own storyline this season. I thought she would be temporary sheriff or something. Instead she was rotting. There was an episode that Pam wasn’t in at all and the episodes Pam was in she had like one or two short scenes. It was such a waste of Kristin’s wonderful acting skill’s. Pam got placed on the back burner this season. It seems every season some character is there. Last season it was Jessica and maybe Jason.In my opinion, Pam/Kristin never gets enough air time and it bothers me. Pam/Eric scenes always seem so short too. A lot of the Eric/Sookie scenes were short too this season. They had abbreviated forms of conversations and then the seen was over in the blink of an eye. Even Sookie seemed like a secondary character at times this season.

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      • GeekGirlSTL says:

        “I think there is a misconception that book fans expect an exact replica of the books and not the case.If I wanted or expected a carbon copy of the books then I would not have stuck with the show for four seasons. It gets a little annoying that people who complain about the show get an accused of being book purists and want an exact replica of the books”.

        YES!! Thank you for stating this!! I have been accused of this as well, because I adore the books, but loving the original story does not account for bad TV. And that is what this season of TB became, just plain bad TV.

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    42. Skarskvinna says:

      Oh, I´m going to miss your recaps, Mas.
      I think the main problem with this season was Bill. There simply is not enough space for two – not in Sookie´s life, not in a plot.
      In book four it´s a clever choice by Charlaine to get rid of Bill for a while so that Eric and Sookie get a real opportunity to see where their relationship is going.
      But in the show, Alan Ball obviously likes Bill´s character too much to get rid of him, even for a while. Somehow they try to keep Bill as a leading male of the show – even though I can´t figure out why. Because of that, the characters and their relatonships aren´t developing naturally, believably. Bill is always there – and it´s boring as hell. And his character affects on everything around it, especially E/S relationship, which I think is a backbone of the show. When that goes wrong, everything goes wrong.
      I think the better way to end this season would have been to let pissed, cool and sexy post-amnesia-Eric wondering what the hell happened with Sookie – without gaining back his memories yet I mean. And jealous Bill lurking in the woods around Sookie´s house, trying to get her forgiveness. That would have been exciting for viewers, something to look forward to in the seasons to come.
      But this… cool vampires turned into puppy-eyed lapdogs on that stupid sofa… akward lines… Uh. :-(

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      • C.K. says:

        Eric and Sookie hardly had a scene alone without Bill being interjected somehow. Your right a lot of the plot choices seemed to be made on account of Bill. Pam accidently told Bill about Eric so that Bill could walk in oon Eric/Sookie. Sookie got shot so that Bill could give her a refill of blood. Amnesia Eric mentioned what a good king Bill is and that he understands Sookie’s love for him (when normal Eric would never say that and it’s far fetched that AE said it too when Bill tried to stake him out of jealousy) etc……

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      • C.K. says:

        I was surprised Eric got his memories back so soon. It’s like they crammed everything with Eric and Sookie into that one episode.

        I just wanted Eric to leave the deed to Sookie’s house on the kitchen table and get his books from the cubby. I would have been fine with that.

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      • DH87 says:

        Just stopped by to say thanks to MASpencer for your great efforts at keeping everyone on the good ship Truetanic for as long as possible. I’m another one who was standing on the bridge for the last three seasons, shouting “Ice berg ahead!” while everyone was dancing in the A Deck “Ball” Room, but vindication doesn’t matter now. The reason Bill is at the center of this show is that Bill is Alan Ball’s alter ego. WE looked at the SVM series as a world in which we could live. AB from the beginning saw a vehicle for amplifying and expounding upon his own particular world view. Could AB identify with the magnificent Eric, master of his own universe? Please! The sad, lonely loser Bill, rejected and marginalized. Yep. That’s the guy. AB even chose a lead actor who would be his twin in physical type, height, age—AB and SM even dress alike. The series storylines were always going to be overboarded for AB World. The writers haven’t lost their way, this is where they’ve been going from the beginning—it’s just that they were wittier in Season 1 and the actors’ charms (and our own forlorn hopes) made it less apparent then. AB took the built-in fan base that CH built up over a decade and has slowly sucked the life out of it. I hope CH got adequately paid for that bit of cannibalism.

        CH just said on her FB page that if we don’t like True Blood, stop complaining and watch something else. Ratings are down half a million from its series high, so some folks are over the show. I’ve cancelled HBO and I gave my cable provider the reason for it. I’m coming back for Game of Thrones. It will give me great pleasure to cancel again just before TB’s next season. That’s about all that’s left to do.

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        • C.K. says:

          It was September 11th too so people could have been watching 9/11 stuff. I watched shows throughout the day.

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          • DH87 says:

            Just as a point of clarification, C.K., the drop was several episodes long—not for the final episode only, and I am excluding the two holiday episodes (Fourth of July and Labor Day) where the drop was in the millions, not half a million viewers, since those weekends are not typical in their viewing patterns.

            No one has ever explained the enormous jump in viewers in Season 1′s Eps. 4 and 5. The only answer must be the first appearance of Alex Skarsgard. Moyer, Paquin, and Ball alone were not enough of a draw previous to that. If you want to delve into this further, check the ratings on the TB Wikipedia page or at TV by the Numbers or any of the other websites devoted to reporting ratings across the board, broadcast as well as basic cable and premium cable.

            Of note, too, is that, after its much touted offer of TB to basic cable last year, HBO had no takers at its asking price. To me that confirms my MHO that, without the nudity, violence, language, and sexual content (all of which would have to be cut to meet basic cable viewing restrictions and to make room for basic cable ads), there isn’t enough actual plot or character development to attract a basic cable buyer. Sex in the City, The Tudors, Entourage, etc., have all found homes on basic cable. What does that say about the industry opinion of the show?

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      • Hootiecat1 says:

        DH…I so agree. But it seems to me that from all I’ve read about TB even at the beginning when male actors were auditioning for character parts – they all had to read Bill’s lines. That should have been a clue. OR is it possible that the show could have been cast without a complete read of all the SVM books? I DON’T THINK SO. Anyone who’s read the books would know that Eric would become the main mail character along with Sookie. Yet up to season 4 Alex Skarsgard has been listed as a guest star, not one of the leading characters.

        What a shock that Alex’s has caught the public’s attention like wildfire – Stephen & Anna…meh. I don’t doubt that Alan Ball is trying to shore up the bill character at the expense of Eric character. WHAT A FOOL…Charlain created Eric as her leading vamp, it’s why we love him, he was written that way and Alan made a serious mistake when he gave Skarsgard the same basic character (which he nailed)…and now bill can’t be forced down our throats even if you make him queenking.

        At this point I see no reason to continue watching when great actors and actresses are forced to be so totally OUT of character so Alan can maintain his intention to screw with us. I’ve been overwhelmed at his hate and degradation of women and will no longer watch True Blood.
        I cancelled HBO on the 12th, and told my cable provider why…I will not watch true blood again.

        I almost wish I had a baby as reason for no longer watch true blood…because I’m ashamed of the time, money and emotional investment of the last four years.

        Thank you MAS you are awesome and shall be missed. I shall lurk from time to time at his site because of so many intelligent people.

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        • DH87 says:

          In your comments during the last half of the season, you all have made excellent points on the topic of rape on TB. Even more than the incessant and undeserved worship (in the form of screen time, character attributes, and plot integration) of Bill Compton, the treatment of rape has served to insult and alienate female viewers. TB Sook’s use of the term “fang rape,” her request for “forgiveness” from her tormentor, Bill Compton, and the blase, callous treatment of TB Jason after his rape experience in Hot Shot all show how tone deaf AB and his writers have become since the Dallas roof scene. AB’s misogyny is just the latest insult in a long list. I’d like one day to hear some journalist or critic nail AB to the wall on some of these issues, but they are all so gullible or worshipful (and now, just plain dismissive of the show), that I accept it will never happen.

          What I do find strange, Hootie, is CH’s quite distant appreciation for her own creation, Eric. She does not see Eric as a romantic hero. She doesn’t see the SVMs as romances—she’s made that clear. As a novelist, I can understand how a character you write may be perceived differently by your readers, but I try to respect that, not dismiss it. What folks are taking away from the SVMs only she has put there. I have to assume that is in part why she is perfectly OK with what AB has done, as she’s said many more times than she’d need to if she were waving the flag for contractual or strategic purposes (she has other books to sell film rights to, after all).

          Don’t be sorry you watched; I’m not. I view it as a four-year course in what not to do in an adaptation.

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        • Josie says:

          Amen! You have said it no holds barred………….

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    43. Kitsunegari says:

      Congratulations on the impending arrival of your very own Teacup Human MAS! Wishing you much happiness in the future! ((hugs))

      Like so many others I have decided that I’m done with TB, although I have to admit that I was going to keep an eye on what was happening second hand through your wonderful recaps. Whoever takes on the job for season five will have some very large and very witty boots to fill. Your presence will be missed and your occasional appearances – Teacup permitting – will be welcomed with all the joy of a vamp finding a Full Fae in Fangtasia.

      As far as Steve Newlin popping fangs/said fangs being a Hallowe’en costume, IIRC in Altogether Dead Sookie comments that one of the sellers at the trade hall in Rhodes was selling fake fangs that could be popped or retracted by means of a tiny, ingenious motor so…. But hey, this is True Blood and nothing like the books in any way, shape or form now (spirit of the books… don’t make me laugh…) so I guess anything is possible, from them being real to Stevie-boy having got them from a damn Christmas Cracker.

      And for those of you still hanging on by your fingernails I hope that for your sakes you don’t end up with a Tarapire potty-mouthing her way across the Bon Temps night wailing about her lost motherfucking humaniteh, bitches! Because if I hadn’t already taken the decision to step back then that would have been the final straw that not only broke the camel’s back but also ground it into cat chow and served it up for Ghost Tina to try and swallow. Even though I’m retreating back into the world of the books (and SSN and Spuffy FanFic, which is infinately more entertaining and better written than S4 of TB has been) this is my parting wish for you all. If I could wave a magic wand and *zing* it all into reality for you I would, but as I can’t I’ll just have to settle for seeing you all around the forum. Not even AB’s madness is enough to drive me away from the insanely funny and clever people here, and right now that’s the only thing that I can remain thankful for. Well, that and Askars ass lol.

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      • DH87 says:

        It’s pretty clear AS will be gone from TB in 18 months (that seven-year contract is not a seven-season contract; it began when filming S1 was just underway)—two more seasons of filming (not film editing, just filming). AB will be gone by then, since AS is the show, and AB won’t want to be around for TB’s tanking in the post-AS world. That would cement his supreme idiocy in relegating what will be a major film star (with The Vanguard) to five minutes per episode for six seasons. AB has no desire to join the select ranks of the “ER” showrunners, who gave George Clooney six minutes of air time per ep in the ’90s so Anthony Edwards (who?) could shine. Even the great genius of AB can’t survive that intact.

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    44. C.K. says:

      On a more positive note, I thought Nelsan did a wonderful job in this episode and Kevin(Jesus) as well. I just feel that is overshadowed by the “slumber party scene of horror”. I did find their goodbye touching. I do love Lala. I miss the version of Lala that “sparkles” and has as some people refer to it as “pizzaz”. Lala has not been the same since his time in the DOD.

      I know this is probably not a popular opinion but I really liked Tara in this episode. I did love Tara in season one (I thought her first scene at the supermarket was golden) and she had her moments in season 3 too. I thought that her year away would do her some good. No, it only made her more messed up. It makes me sad for the potential I saw in the character. Now they just make her the “eternal victim.” If Tara does get turned, they will probably make her the eternal victim yet again (which is sad).

      I love Ginger. She was so sweet to comfort Pam even though Pam treats her terribly. Ginger really deserve a raise or she should just leave.

      At the beginning of the season I was hoping we would get to see a Halloween party at Fangtasia (maybe Pam dressed as Alice in Wonderland) and they did not really even show that.

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    45. Duckbutt says:

      I, too will miss your posts MAS —it was the highlight to the lowlights that have been TB. Disappointing season even if we Bookies did get a few crumbs thrown our way.

      Now that Sookie has forgiven Bill, what will Eric have to do to get the edge back? Does he want the edge back? He laid it on the line with the “I love yous” and has been rejected. Will we now see the cold, heartless and calculating Eric that we love to hate? After that humiliation, how can he not be? But we have bigger fish to fry in S5 with RE’s return (was he pulled out of the concrete by Antonia’s spell? If he’s in a parking garage, he may have been shielded by the sun for awhile –just wild speculation, on my part…..

      And will Sookie like a warm, dark werewolf? Even if she can read his mind? Will that roadblock she’s always had to human male relationships be thrown out the window? After all, she could read Alcide as clearly as she read other humans.

      I speculate, but don’t know if I really care any more –I’ll watch S5 because I adore AS. I hope they do right by him….
      Pat

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    46. mspeachz says:

      Cheers to you maspencer and your going-to-be-adorable teacup human. Thank you for all the hard work, your recaps will be sorely missed. The snark, wit and all round humor always made my day.

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    47. Freyja says:

      Ok I have to talk about the plot holes this episode. I actually was laughing at those, they were so obvious and sloppy.

      1) How did Marnie/Lala kill all those guards with their weapons, with just an ax, and not get injured?

      2) How did Marnie/Lala who has probably never done a hard work in her life, build a pyre and raise pole that was sturdy enough to keep 2 old vampires? Did she use the ax that was standing out of one guards chest? If so, did she manage to do all this without the guards noticing?

      3) How did Marnie/Lala get Bill and Eric wrapped in chains and up on the pyre?

      4) How did Tara know that Marnie had returned and possessed Lala, just by discovering Jesus dead? Is she a ghost CSI agent?

      5) Does Holly always carry tons of salt in her purse?

      6) How come Jesus couldn’t in ep. 11 produce the demon with almost a snap of the finger like in the finale? Why wasn’t there any demon ceremony?

      7) Why didn’t Antonia pull out Marnie from Lala? Creepy Gran seems to have gained awful lot of spirit power in just few weeks from her death.
      8) Why aren’t the vampires smoking from the silver chains?

      9) Why isn’t there any smoke from the fire at the pyre?

      10) Where did Marnie/Lala get the shutters from? Bills house? That can’t have been a quiet or an easy job.

      I’m sure there are tons of more plot holes but these were just from the top of my head.

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      • Freyja says:

        The nr. 8 was not suppose to be a smiley face LOL

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        • znb says:

          haha and why were bill and erics shirts off????

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          • Freyja says:

            Don’t make fun of their bromance znb!!! They must have just started to get down and dirty when that bi*** barged in on their fun. Marnie is such a cock blocker :(

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            • znb says:

              LOL isn’t she though.and I’m pretty sure bill was tied higher up than eric so that they looked more or less the same height(I’d watch it to check..but I’m no masochist)…thats just so considerate of marnie/lala….she didnt want bill to feel short…

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            • Freyja says:

              Yeah that crate seems to follow Bill around ;)

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      • znb says:

        oh and more weirdness…Renes cajun accent!? jessicas eternal hymen not being a problem ALL fucking season! and seriously…i laughed out loud when jesus was like you can’t trade magic like pokemon cards and two minutes later he’s like “okay yes i’ll do it” and in a heart beat the lame demon mask is there…..jesus and sookie sure made leaps with their powers in one night….

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        • Katee says:

          Right! Jessica’s hymen wasn’t a problem all season except as something for Hoyt to throw back at her when they were breaking up. I specifically remember him saying he deserves more than an eternal virgin. Yet he also said they were doing it all the time when confronting the protesters and Jessica certainly hopped on Jason like it was nothing.

          I guess Jessica only has a hymen when it is convenient for the writers and when it isn’t, it just magically dissolves away…

          God the sloppiness in this season…

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      • Leif says:

        In season three, the Were’s who kidnapped Bill wore gloves to protect themselves from the silver chains they used on Bill.
        Sam said in season one that Werewolves were allergic to silver…then this season we have Alcide picking up the silver chains used to cement Russell.

        I hate inconsistency in the mythology.

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        • ATW says:

          I noticed this too. And my husband, who only occasionally watches with me, remembered that from previous seasons. So someone who watches 3-4 episodes a season remembered the were/silver thing and none of the writers did? It just means they don’t care any longer.

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      • [Exit, Pursued By A Sloth] says:

        1.) MAGIC!

        2.) MAGIC!

        3.) She put a pair of Sookie’s panties in a giant version of one of those Have-a-Heart traps they use for attic raccoons, trapping Bill and Eric inside when they were lured by the scent.

        4.) I’m sure Marnlala was kind enough to pin a note to Jesus’s corpse saying “Killed by Marnie Stonebrook, not Laffayette Reynolds, so please don’t arrest him, policemen, even though his prints will be all over the murder weapon and the duct tape. Sincerly, Marnabelle Stonebrook, Crazy-Ass Witch Lady”

        5.) You never know when you might be attacked by giant slugs.

        6.) uhhh…MAGIC!

        7.) I think the more important question is why the hell “Gran” just started walking away without even acknowledging Sookie, and then when Sookie did run up to her, she get a start and looked at her like “…the fuq is this?”, and then basically said “LOL you’re gonna die alone. Peace out!”

        8. ) Bill is either immune or highly tolerant to silver. He has to be, considering he gets out of silver bondage over and over again, whereas Eric and Russell can be felled by even a small amount. If its connected to large amounts of fairy blood, it could be why Eric is now immune.

        9.) Magical fire doesn’t smoke, everybody knows this. It’s right in the brownies/cub scouts handbook.

        10.) Yeah, she ripped them off the first floor of Bill’s house (you can see the shutterless windows in the background). I would have preferred if she used some of his tackyass decor instead.

        Extra Credit

        11. Why were their shirts off? Well, didn’t we all learn in episode two that whenever Marnie spells a vampire, it mysteriously loses its shirt?

        12. Werewolves and silver? Alcide’s beard protects him from all danger. It’s a magical beard.

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    48. Hann23 says:

      Aw Shucks, MASpencer, I am so gonna miss your lovely, thoughtful and totally bad ass reviews.

      I got two little ones myself, so yeah, you probably won’t have the time. Here’s wishes for a very calm pregnancy for the remaining months and an easy peezy birth.

      Enjoy your little teacup! He already sounds terribly sweet.

      And if you decide that you simply MUST follow a new show and recap it, please, please let us know. I would watch that SHOW just for your recaps alone.

      As for True Blood, not much to say. Feeling a bit sad at the moment. Feel like I am a victim of highway robbery. This too shall pass. Right?

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    49. Fuzzy Peaches says:

      I will miss your recaps greatly, it was the only bright point of all those episodes where we were left with a big “what the fuck?” But I am very happy to hear about your teacup human on the way. Congratulations and thanks again!!

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    50. sneeky says:

      What I also found really strange was that Bill was able to kill of Nan just like this, I still don´t know how old she was exactly, but I think she was a very old vampire, makes no sense at all, with Sophie Anne Bill needed help and Nan was so easy to kill, what bullsh*t, was just another example of Bill glorification, Eric is much older, he should have done it, he even needed to seduce Talbot last season, who is younger than him, to distract him before killing him off, too many inconsistencies; and they also had Bill kill of Marnie, they could have Eric rip her heart out, Marnies death was so lame in episode 11, but of course they had to give this Bill to make him look cool, its so obvious that they now try to make Bill look “hip” now.. (eyeroll)…

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      • Freyja says:

        I think Nan said in the finale that she was 640 year old or something. MUCH older than Bill, but that’s no problem for this Supervamp!

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        • sneeky says:

          640 years?? WTF, it really makes no sense at all that Bill could kill her off, the older the vampire, the stronger he/she is, but with Bill it seems to be an exception, if they would do the same with Eric what they have done with Bill, to give him some sort of super power, then Eric should also have been able to kill of Russel, who is 3 times older than him, because Nan was like 3-4 times older than Bill too!!!

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        • Krtmd says:

          Not to be a stickler, but she said she was 816 years old.

          But Bill being all awesome sauce, he obviously had no trouble.

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          • Freyja says:

            Ok thanks Krtmd. Wow, 816 years old huh? o.O
            “Here I come to save the day! That means that Mighty Bill is on his way.”

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          • Sarah says:

            IKR? That seems to be the only constant on the show, Bill is apparently untouchable and can one up any vampire that he comes across. Ugh.

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            • C.K. says:

              Bill will probably kill Russell next season too. Bill is Houdini. Eric or Pam deserved the right to kill Marnie since they suffered the most at her hand.

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        • znb says:

          she said she was 816..but for supervamp/yoda/neo bill its all in a nights work *pam eye roll*

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      • IATM says:

        Billy has killed other older Vamps between the 4 seasons.. ( LS was older then Billy & Billy was able to actually not loose a limb in fighting with Russell)… Billy was able to figh with Lorena in s2 & hold her down with Silver in s3 for Sookie to stake him..

        if i didnt know any better i would think Sookie percieves Billy as Superman.. because in s3 she told Alcide how strong Billy’s blood is & yada,yada,yada… so under Sookie’s POV she places Billy on a high pedestal regardless of his wrong doing & she consider’s him a shinning white knight to save her from what exactly?? because she doesnt want to leave Bon Temps?? to save her from the boogieman??

        Sookie is Eric’s “Kryptonite” song by 3 doors down…

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