Hero Worship
February 1, 2012 in Character & Plot Analysis, Eric Northman, Sookie & Eric, Symbolism & Motif
You’ve heard the argument a million times – “Eric is bad!” “Even Charlaine says so!” “Charlaine says some fans aren’t reading the same books she’s writing!”.
But what if being “bad” wasn’t such a bad thing after all?
This is a guest post by krtmd.
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It should come as no surprise to frequent visitors of Sookieverseblog that I am an unashamed Eric lover. I prefer him to all other characters in the series outside of Sookie, and truly believe he will end the series firmly entrenched in our beloved telepath’s life as her HEA. We’ve explored at length on this very blog lots of ways the books reveal things about Eric that lead us to this conclusion, most notably SVB’s “Loved by a Vampire” series. Charlaine Harris has said that ‘it’s all in the books’, but are there other things about the books that could lead us to the same conclusion? I would argue that it’s Eric’s very role in the series that tells us a lot.
So, step into my Wayback Machine, boys and girls, because Professor Krtmd is taking you back to high school English class. Let’s explore some themes in literature, shall we?
Q: Ms. Harris, You’ve continually said that the SSN are not romance novels, and I would add that Eric Northman is a bit of an antihero. Are you surprised by the reader response to his character and the intense interest in Sookie’s HEA?
A: Yes, very surprised. Some readers are sure they see a traditional romance hero in Eric, but he’s anything but that. He’s a murderer, many times over, and pragmatic. But he does love Sookie. However, romance novels always end with everyone happy except really bad guys, and that’s not the way I write.
(source – Washington Post online chat)
When I asked Ms. Harris this question online several months ago, I myself labeled Eric an antihero, and not to my surprise, she didn’t disagree with me. I was surprised, however, to find that some readers were disturbed by that characterization.
Why?
I’m here to tell you that not only is Eric very much an antihero, but also why you, as an Eric and Sookie shipper, should be happy about that.
So… what is an antihero?
According to our trusty friend Professor Wikipedia, an antihero is “generally considered to be a protagonist whose character is at least in some regards conspicuously contrary to that of the archetypal hero…”
Wait, back up. What’s an archetype?
Again, our friend the Professor defines an archetype as a “universally understood symbol or term or pattern of behavior, a prototype upon which others are copied, patterned, or emulated. Archetypes are often used in myths and storytelling across different cultures… Archetypes are likewise supposed to have been present in folklore and literature for thousands of years, including prehistoric artwork. The use of archetypes to illuminate personality and literature was advanced by Carl Jung early in the 20th century, who suggested the existence of universal contentless forms that channel experiences and emotions, resulting in recognizable and typical patterns of behavior with certain probable outcomes. Archetypes are cited as important to both ancient mythology and modern narratives”.
Huh?
It’s not that bad. Simply put, an archetype in literature gives us a framework for agreed upon behavior – the mother, the child, the trickster, the gambler, the hero, etc. We expect the archetypal characters to act in specific ways. The hero will be selfless, and always thinking of others. The villain will be devious and evil, seeking the destruction of others. These are purposeful simplifications of human behavior, but useful in literature or movies, for helping the audience to identify and understand a character’s behavior. Of course, in real life, seldom are humans so predictable. Which is precisely why the antihero is so attractive. The antihero has shades of both black and white, exhibiting non-hero qualities, like selfishness or even committing immoral acts, while simultaneously acting in a heroic fashion.
The antihero is often considered selfish, or judged harshly by his peers. He is surrounded by people who don’t value him, so he is distrustful of others, assuming the worst. He’s been betrayed, or misused, in the past, so he protects himself first. But that doesn’t mean that the antihero doesn’t have a moral compass. In fact, it’s precisely these past experiences that give the antihero a rather strong moral sense of what’s right and wrong, even if they act in ways outside of societal norms. “The ends justify the means” might be their motto.
The antihero, however, is not a villain. He or she will commit acts of a heroic nature, often at great personal risk. The antihero’s story will often be a journey, not necessarily one of redemption, but certainly one of change. And it’s because of their past experiences that when they come across someone of significance, worthy of notice, of their help, that they can recognize it and are willing to act accordingly.
Okay, then. Who are some other antiheroes?
In an article for The Cornell Daily Sun, Kory Mitchell had this to say about antiheroes:
Antiheroes are protagonists who, contrary to the Supermans and Atticus Finches of yore, display conspicuous personal flaws. Indeed, many are defined by their chronic lack of conviction, gruff demeanor, reprehensible behavior or general moral shortcomings. Often those around them perceive them to be ne’er-do-wells or outcasts until they perform a contradictory heroic deed. Yet, despite these chinks in the armor, or perhaps because of them, we as readers or audience members root for these characters. Though many antiheroes have unrealistically exaggerated “bad” characteristics, the presence of both a light side and a dark side still brings them closer to the truth of human character than the traditional hero. Plus, people with a little edge are just more fun. Thus we love them more deeply because they are more relatable.
He goes on to cite several examples from literature, movies and television, including Sydney Carton from Dickens’ A Tale of Two Cities, Dexter, and my personal favorite, Fight Club’s Tyler Durden.
“All the ways you wish you could be, that’s me. I look like you wanna look, I fuck like you wanna fuck, I am smart, capable and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.” – Tyler Durden
According to Listserve, the top 10 movie antiheroes are The Crow, Mad Max, Snake (from Escape from New York), Dirty Harry, Tyler Durden, Clint Eastwood’s ‘man with no name’ from the westerns, The MacManus Brothers, D-Fens, Leon from The Professional, and Travis Bickle from Taxi Driver.
Obviously, some of these famous antiheroes are pretty nasty indeed, but they also have some very real and likable characteristics that make them sympathetic to the audience. Leon is a cold-blooded assassin and yet he takes tender care of the young girl he befriends. Travis Bickle is an outright psychopath, but we find him endearing enough to worry about his outcome. All of the movie antiheroes cited have one thing in common – they’ve been hardened by the world around them and their circumstances, until something comes along to shake their foundation.
Oh, hey there! You sure are…attractive
Through Sookie, Charlaine Harris goes to great lengths to remind us how physically attractive Eric is – he’s all man, his hair long and blonde, his body built for swinging a sword. Sookie is tremendously attracted to him physically, and they have a good sex life.
Although there are many of us who fantasize about such a man, and such a sex life, for ourselves, I think there are other things about Eric, or any antihero that make them attractive characters – and I don’t mean in the physical sense.
Author of the ASOIAF series (which is riddled with antiheroes – Jaime, Sandor, Tyrion, etc.) George R. R. Martin, recently interviewed Bernard Cornwell for the Amazon blog Omnivoracious, and they talked a little about the attractiveness of the “grey” characters.
GRRM: A familiar theme in a lot of epic fantasy is the conflict between good and evil. The villains are often Dark Lords of various ilks, with demonic henchmen and hordes of twisted, malformed underlings clad in black. The heroes are noble, brave, chaste, and very fair to look upon. Yes, Tolkien made something grand and glorious from that, but in the hands of lesser writers, well … let’s just say that sort of fantasy has lost its interest for me. It is the grey characters who interest me the most. Those are the sort I prefer to write about… and read about. It seems to me that you share that affinity. What is it about flawed characters that makes them more interesting than conventional heroes?
BC: Maybe all our heroes are reflections of ourselves? I’m not claiming to be Richard Sharpe (God forbid), but I’m sure parts of my personality leaked into him (he’s very grumpy in the morning). And perhaps flawed characters are more interesting because they are forced to make a choice . . . a conventionally good character will always do the moral, right thing. Boring. Sharpe often does the right thing, but usually for the wrong reasons, and that’s much more interesting!
Antiheroes are attractive to audiences because they are relatable. I’d venture to say that most of us could easily find and point out our most undesirable characteristics. We are all flawed. To read about the selfless hero, who always acts morally or responsibly is not only a bit boring, but it points out the very things about ourselves we don’t like.
The antihero can also save the day, so to speak, but he can do it in a way that’s much more intelligible to the audience. Perhaps he does so grudgingly, or for more than one reason. Maybe he acts in spite of himself, or commits a heinous act for the greater good. Whatever the case, this grey area leaves us more to chew on, more to think about – and it’s considerably less boring to read, or watch.
Eric is attractive to us, not just because he’s hot and has amazing sexabilities, but because he’s a grey character. We wonder at his motivations. We can’t always predict what he’ll do next or how he will react. We ponder, at great length and often around these parts, why he does what he does. This is what keeps us waiting, year after year, book after book, dying to know what happens next. And despite her “surprise” at fan reaction to Eric, Charlaine Harris damn well knows it.
Ok, so show me how Eric is an antihero…
Actually, this part is easy. Let’s start with the bad, shall we?
• Eric has committed immoral acts, including murder. Eric is a vampire. He has existed for centuries, long before there was synthetic blood to drink. “Young vampires are so hungry; at first, I killed even when I didn’t mean to.” –Eric, Dead and Gone
• Eric can be selfish. In Club Dead, he sends Sookie to Jackson, Mississippi to look for Bill to save his own skin with then Queen Sophie Anne. He also admits he will be friends with Sookie as long as it’s in his best interest to do so.
• Eric threatens others, including Sookie, with violence in order to get what he wants. As early as their second meeting in Dead Until Dark, when Eric summons Sookie and Bill to Fangtasia to help find the thief, Sookie knows that Eric will use those she loves against her in order to get her assistance.
• In Dead as a Doornail, he even threatens to kill Sookie himself, in what I would argue is the sexiest murder threat ever, in order to rid himself of having to think about her anymore.
But, like the other antiheroes I mentioned Eric is slowly and subtly changed by his relationship with Sookie. He begins to do things for her that might not be in his best interest.
• In All Together Dead, Eric steps in when Andre tries to force Sookie into a blood exchange in Rhodes. Now before anyone jumps all over this, I will state unequivocally that, yes, Eric benefits personally from having Sookie bonded to him. But it was also at great risk to himself that he stepped in against Andre’s wishes.
• In From Dead to Worse, Eric surprises Sookie with marriage, vamp style, in Fangtasia. Does Eric benefit from tying Sookie to him, yet again? You bet. But he also makes an enemy of his new boss, Victor Madden, in the process. And Sookie doesn’t have to go to Las Vegas.
• In Dead and Gone, Eric wades into a conflict between the fairies to protect Sookie, the woman he loves. In fact, he and Pam further anger Victor Madden in order to render aid to Sookie when she’s caught in the fairy war.
• Even Pam has noticed that the usually pragmatic Eric has changed. “Truly, Eric’s a great vampire, and very practical. But he isn’t practical nowadays – not when it comes to you.” -Pam, Dead in the Family.
Compare and Contrast Time
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away…
George Lucas wrote a little series of movies that changed cinema forever, yadda, yadda, yadda. But he also gave us one of the greatest popular culture antiheroes of all time.
In a nutshell, when we first meet Han Solo, he’s a mercenary for hire. A smuggler looking out for number one – himself. He’s not in it for the ‘revolution, sister. He’s in it for the money.’ But something comes along that slowly changes his mind. Hmmm. Could it be a woman?
It can be argued that Han sticks around the Rebel Alliance for so long because, against his better judgment, he befriends both Luke and Leia. Their lives begin to matter to him. He starts to risk his own life in order to save theirs. And to show his commitment to Leia, he joins the Alliance in the final movie and eventually admits his love for her.
Is this starting to sound familiar?
I’ll go one step further. The object of Han’s affection? Leia? Yep, she’s an orphan. A princess, in fact, with some strange, secret relatives. Oh yeah, and she’s got some special powers. Other people want her dead, and she needs to be protected, although most of the time, she ends up rescuing herself or the hero. (Yeah – it’s a little creepy isn’t it?)
Now I will say this. While in both cases, these men make changes in their lives, in neither case is at the behest of the woman involved. Eric isn’t changed by Sookie, or even wants to change because of Sookie, nor does Sookie really have a desire for Eric to change. Rather, Eric is changed by the love he feels for Sookie. In fact, both Eric and Han resist their feelings for a long time, choosing to push away rather than embrace the woman they are so conflicted about. But once they’ve made their peace with how they feel, well then it’s game on.
So, in conclusion…
I think a strong case can be made for Eric as a classic antihero. While demonstrating several conspicuous character flaws, Eric can also behave in a heroic fashion – at least when it comes to the woman he loves. He might have gained significant political power by marrying Sookie, but he also prevented Victor from carting her off to serve Felipe de Castro in the process. Most importantly, I think we will see Eric make some choices (*cough* Queen of Oklahoma *cough*) in the final two books that will show unequivocally how he feels about Sookie, and how much of himself he’s willing to risk. Perhaps we will even see a fulfillment of the promise he made way back in Dead to the World.
Popular culture contains numerous examples of antiheroes, and we’ve examined only a small sampling in this post. Many of these classic antiheroes share several character flaws with our Viking; acting in one’s own best interest, threatening others with harm in order to get what they want. These are not necessarily the ideals of society, but certainly effective motivators all the same.
And I’ve also admitted I have a Star Wars obsession in a public forum.
Oh, and by the way…
In the end, Han Solo gets the girl.
Image: Blue Milk Special




Great post krtmd! I never thought about Eric and Sookie being so similar to Han and Leia. Creepy indeed!
perfect post! yes I’ve always been more attracted by the anti-hero, long before a certain Viking appear in my life. I hate, hate, the hero always perfect. When the “hero” begins to make super patronizing and moralistic discourses around, as if he were the only perfect being on earth. I want to vomit.
My favorite anti-hero is Rhett Butler (the second is the Han Solo).
Rhett is the person I have always associated with (personality-wise) with Eric too! The love between him and Scarlett, one for the ages. Eric and Sookie, same type of love-hate-lust-can’t-live-without-em love story. I don’t know how Ms. Harris can say these books are not a love story…that’s like saying “Gone With the Wind” was a story about the Civil War.
I think they have some similiarities to Lizzie and Mr. Darcy. Lizzie and Mr. Darcy had some misunderstandings and miscommunications in the beginning. “Gone with the Wind” is one of CH favorite books.
I like that Eric is not very boastful. He will do something nice for Sookie like paving her driveway and does not make a big deal about it (even though the act was not completely altruistic . Eric is a deeply flawed character and that is a part of the appeal. Also, his age adds to the intrigue.
Excellent post, krtmd! Well done you.
I’ve been quite fond of the Han Solo x Eric Northman comparison. They have a lot in common and the anti-hero archetype tag applies to them both really well.. Which is why I’m most perplexed by TB’s hit or miss approach when it comes to Eric’s characterization. Sometimes Ball and the other writers really seem to get it, (Eric ripping out that guys throat in S4 vs. Han shooting first) and then they don’t. (Eric saying “I love you” when the anti-hero let’s the girl come to him first and has difficulty expressing his emotions, ie Han’s “I know”).
And since you raised GRRM as well, lol, while Martin may be a really good world builder, I see him first and foremost as a character writer and above all he really knows how to write dark, complex, interesting characters who fit into the anti-hero mold. I think Sandor saving Loras from Gregor, an act of kindness that has a dual purpose of revenge, just looks so similar to Eric staking Long Shadow to me. (And that is another whole Ball of TB fail wax. Sigh).
But back to BookEric, yeah, I think Charlaine is acutely aware of why Eric is appealing, outside of her descriptors that she made him tall and blond and well,.. hot. His character is magnetic, and it is magnetic because he doesn’t always do the right thing though we may want him too, but he has his reasons and his motivations are complicated. And call me rabid, but I don’t see BookEric not getting the girl.
Serena,
I agree that CH is probably pulling a Bill Clinton in her insistence that the SVMs are not traditional romances, and the series’ end will depend on what the definition of “is” is. I think we will see a new, not traditional, definition of an HEA and a new definition of a hero. Sook and Eric may have a “new” type of marriage, where each gets something and gives up something. Sook may predict that her future is far from the emotional security of Jane Austen—that it is, for her, both cloudy and strangely acceptable at this, the end point, of her journey. Pulling Eric down from a pedestal makes Sook’s HEA one where she ends up not with the “hero” (Bill dying in defense of her?) but the morally ambiguous antihero/villain.
Yeah, I think I get where CH is coming from with the remarks she makes about SVM not being a traditional romance novel. IMHO if it were a traditional romance novel, then Sookie would end up with Sam, preggo with his ‘puppies’, and painting their white picket fence, so I always take heart from her saying it’s not a traditional romance novel.
Since I’m waist deep right now in Karen Marie Moning’s books, the talk about traditional romance novels really brings them to mind. When I’m trying to describe her books to someone, I usually say that the books in the Highlander series are more traditional romance novels. They follow the pattern of traditional romance novels in my mind. KMM’s Fever series books, however, are not what I’d classify as traditional romance novels, even though I’m just as invested (probably more invested really) in the romance that is in those novels and way more besotted with the hero (or anti-hero as the case may be) in the Fever series than I am with any of the Highlander guys (not to say that they aren’t great as well, but great as they are…they’re not Barrons!)
For me, a traditional romance novel would tie up all the loose ends of the story and have the heroine traditionally married to the hero and either having babies or on their way to having babies. When I say HEA for the SVM novels, that ain’t what I want at all.
I don’t care if the loose ends are tied up or not, I don’t care if Sookie and Eric are married in the human manner or even in the vampire way, I don’t care if it is all written out about how they’ll deal with her short life span and his immortality. I don’t need all the answers. Just Eric and Sookie in a monogamous and happy romantic relationship with at least most loose ends wrapped up….that’s all I personally want or need for the HEA.
It isn’t strictly true that the definition of a romance novel is one with a happy ending (the much maligned HEA). Writers of the genre define it as a novel with a “hopeful,” or “optimistic” resolution. CH doesn’t seem to agree (that is her prerogative, of course), since, in many of her replies to questions about Sook’s ultimate fate, she hints at a just that—a hopeful ending that may or may involve a “happy” resolution to Sook’s romantic adventures.
Another point with regards the end point of the whole series is that this is also Sookies journey. She herself has shifted from a very black and white moral code for herself to a much more ambiguous one.
Book one Sookie whilst she has tried not to judge others choices would be appalled with her book eleven self, not fully comprehending the journey of survival,(or as some may see it corruption) which has taken place to lead her to that point.
Similar can be said of her relationship with Eric. Others have caused her less problems and been kicked to the kerb. Yet she has been through more with Eric both due to her association with him and originating from him and so far is still there.
This is as much to do with Sookies shift in the way she views the world as it is about what Eric/Bill/Quinn/Sam have or haven’t brought to the table (both positive and negative).
Perhaps CH is trying to show that in the end Sookies choice is about the person she has become. How what she is looking for may have changed, by levelling the playing field regarding other characters faults.
Oh, and the reason the TB writers sometimes seem to “get” the SVM approach to anti-hero Eric and other times don’t is that Eric is a doppelganger for the TB/AB “anti-hero,”— Bill. What SHOULD be done is clear (my god, CH has given them l00,000 words times l0 books = 1,000,000 words on this couple!) but it’s being done in a ham-fisted way for Bill. Eric is the stalking horse, the handsome distraction from the “real” center of the story, TB Bill. The TB folks still think they are being so subtle and disingenuous—the fact that they aren’t begging forgiveness for the debacle that was S4 proves that there is no such thing as shame in H’wood—they are still acting the wizard, with the screen having been pulled down some time ago (I’d say mid-S2, but that’s just me).
Very well put and depressingly true.
Excellent post!
And thank you for pointing out that Eric isn’t changed by Sookie, or because of Sookie, or because she wants him to change, but that he’s changed by his love for her. And yes, eerie how similar it all is to Han and Leia. (Is there a meme in there somewhere? That everything post-Star Wars can be traced back to Star Wars?
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I loved this post, krtmd!
I loved the Hans Solo/Eric Northman comparison. I never realized that before, but you’re right! LOL I have to confess, I’m a Star Wars junkie too.
Thanks. I have to admit that this whole post grew from my Han/Leia = Eric/Sookie epiphany.
Great read! Thanks for clarifying what an antihero is, and all the research.
I would argue that most paranormal romance stars an antihero. LOL
Loved this Krtmd!
Ironically, last year some time, some of us Eric lovers were discussing how maybe AB is fashioning that other vampire with the Journey of the Hero, as per Joseph Campbell, putting him through similar steps to elevate him to somewhere we all know still leaves him lacking. I always crushed on Han Solo and Eric is my favorite “bad” (as in good) of all time. I am not getting any hot flashes for the show to start but I am excited to see Alex on screen playing him and reading the final two books to see what CH has decided on with his character. She created a great character and hopefully, the pressures do not take a toll and she doesn’t snip and snap to end the story.
Thank you for the Han Solo comparison! My friends and I are big time Star Wars fans. This will make it much easier for me to argue my points about Eric!
Great post, Krtmd.
Han Solo was my first crush. I loved Han and Leia’s banter.
So I guess if Eric is Han then does that make Pam Chewbacca?
and don’t forget hot car = hot spaceship
How about Queen of Oklahoma as Jabba the Hut?
I prefer Beeeeell as Jabba the Hut. But, then again, his “passion” for Sookie is as screwy and wrong as Luke’s for Leia =p
Great post krtmd – and its the fact that Eric is the antihero, that he is grey, that he is flawed, that I love this character so much. I would say that for me, Eric’s flaws balance him out, make him more real, but they’re never deal-breakers.
Oh and I flove Han Solo too. One of my first your crushes. That and Benny from Abba
Great post and such a clever analysis of Eric’s character! I’ve always disliked when SVM fans and even fanfic writers (I am one, too) make him either an angel whose sh*t doesn’t stink or turn him into a dark Eric who traps Sookie with lies and promises and contracts and all that jazz. He’s so much more, but most of all – and I agree with you 100% – it is his love for Sookie that changes him. He learns to accept it, and that process is IMHO the greatest struggle for him, because admitting and embracing his feelings for her make him vulnerable. In the end, in words of Scully (about Mulder – and yes, I LOVE the X-files, too) he is “my savior, and my endangerer.” I hope he gets the girl. I hope CH doesn’t rob one character in favor of another, let’s say make Eric do something stupid so that Sookie would have a good reason to break up with him for good. If they are not meant to be together, I’ll live with it – IF the integrity of neither of Sookie’s character nor Eric’s character is compromised as means to an end to her HEA. Thank you for the great post.
Great post, krtmd! I’ve always crushed on the antiheros. They are definitely more interesting, and much more fun, than the traditional hero types. And of course they’re much more likely to tolerate my flaws.
Loved your post krtmd! I think ALL my favorite characters are antiheros, both male and female. To use a food analogy, who wants vanilla ice cream when they can have banana split? Never be ashamed of your love of Star Wars – you are not alone, my friend.
Awesome post, krtmd
Loved it. It was Eric’s grey areas that made me fall for him in the first place. I agree with you that DAAD contains the sexiest death threat EVER. A close second for me is when he’s holding her hands in CD threatening to torture her. He must have missed the “whisper sweet nothings” class back in Viking school, but it still works for me, lol!
Also find the GRRM/Cornwell interview segment fascinating, and am off to read the whole interview. I have to admit, seeing those two names in the same sentence was totally SQUEE-worthy for me! I’m almost done reading Cornwell’s Saxon series – I’ve been raving about it in the forum.
Can’t wait to read more of your musings on the blog – great stuff, lady!
Han Solo, Ruark from my fav romance book Shanna, Steve Morgan from Sweet Savage Love when I was 15….I’ve been exclusively and antihero lover since 1974! Hmmmmm and guss what? They all got the girl in the end…..
Eric and Damon are only my lastest antihero loves!
Great post krtmd! Han Solo was my first great fictional love. He set the standard and I’ve loved antiheroes since.
Duuuude, Snake Plisskin! Yeah Baby! I was in love with Snake…and I was like 9 years old. Not sure what that says about me.
Krt, this is a FANTASTIC post! Kudos , Girlfriend!
I think another reason the antihero is so interesting is because in his own way he’s honest. It sounds funny to say that but it’s true. You know exactly where you stand with him. This also makes his journey that much more meaningful. The good guy, as you stated so eloquently in your post, will always do the right thing. There is no inner turmoil, no decisions to be made – it just is. It doesn’t take much for him to love & put himself out there for someone else. This kind of makes his love (no one shoot me for saying this) a lot less special. The antihero, on the other hand, has to make hard decisions & struggles with these new found thoughts & emotions. He will have to care for someone other than himself at great risk to himself – with all of his defense mechanisms screaming “danger!”. He doesn’t do that shit for just anyone. So it is because of this we the readers know that once he lets it happen, his love & emotions for this other person runs deep & honest & is…special.
Of course he’s still a badboy & does self serving shit but ultimately, he will always go to hell & back to protect his woman. The cave woman in me loves that. (wink wink to Eddy and Deedums.
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I agree VL. Eric is honest about the shit he does, he owns his shit – the good and bad. And, this is one reason I can’t stand Bill who is forever excusing his bad behavior on his ‘vampire nature’ when it suits him. Bill lies to himself, and sees himself as the helpless victim while he victimizes others.
So, if Eric is the antihero, what does that make Bill? The tragic hero?
The Loser.
Agree.
“Once you’ve been sent to Peru, it’s through for you.”
LMAO DH87. He could’ve been sent to Antarctica and the Billusional would still believe he has a shot!
Brava!!! Brava!!! Brava!!!
It’s always good to see a fellow Eric-lover acknowledge his dark-side and faults. He is anything but one-dimensional, he always has dual motives, and he is self-serving. He is also sooooo much more than his good looks and ‘Gracious Plenty’.
Glossing over some of Eric’s actions in the series doesn’t make him more likely to be the HEA guy, imho, I feel that it’s just the opposite. I think a lot of Eric’s flaws match well with Sookie’s making them compatible. There are romantic aspects in the SSS, unfortunately, some folks can’t cope with Eric’s dark-side too well so they tend to twist his bad actions into something noble (staking LS, dodging the arrow in Rhodes), or chalk it up to his ‘vampire nature’ ala Bill Compton (the hard bite at the end of DR). My point is, if readers look past his ‘hawtness’ and really look at some of his actions, he doesn’t really fit into the mold of a romantic hero at all which means (YIKES!) he might not be HEA guy for Sookie (cue Funeral March music). But, this is why I wholeheartedly agree with the author that SSS are not romance novels because if they were Eric would not get the girl – but thanks in part to Eric’s ruthlessness he most likely will, indeed, get the girl.
What fascinates me about Sookie’s story is how she is able to fall in love with someone like Eric. Eric has threatened her and her loved ones with torture, he sent her out to Dallas and Jackson where she was nearly raped, beaten, tricked into taking his blood, staked, raped, nearly drained, and beaten again. Also, because of her relationship with Eric, Sookie has been made into a target for murder by Hotrain/Charles Twining and Victor/Bruno. While Eric had his crisis over his feelings for Sookie, especially after he learned what AE did, he wasn’t very kind to Sookie who was suffering from her own loss. There is also the blood bond….errrr….yeah he knew Sookie didn’t want it and he also knew how to end it all along. And, Sookie may now understand why he sprung a vamp-marriage on her, but I’m not holding my breath for Eric to give her a real proposal and a wedding, and would it kill him to at least give the girl a ring? Speaking of marriage – Eric was wrong to withhold the fact that he is contracted to marry QoOk. I understand his reasoning for not doing so, but in the end Sookie could see this as a betrayal of trust. Let’s also hope that Eric’s murky relationship with Niall isn’t another betrayal of Sookie. I also must mention the bite at the end of DR, it was, imo, Eric’s worst moment and not OOC. The fact is Eric has physically hurt Sookie before, and he stopped when she protested. She’s also suffered painful bites from Eric before, the difference with this particular bite is both of their attitudes at the time. Sookie’s reaction was completely within her character – she did what she needed to do to survive, yet she’s not so callous that she can smile in the midst of dead bodies and bloody body parts. Sookie’s feelings of self-loathing and hypocrisy seem to be affirmed when Eric says she is acting like a hypocrite, therefore, somehow justifying his actions-NOT. Then he ‘struck’. I don’t know about you, but that word invokes the image of an agitated dog biting hard because he’s angry. And, I think Eric certainly was angry at Sookie in that moment, he just didn’t care about how she was feeling. It’s not as if Eric isn’t aware of how she reacts to ghastly, bloody things, he was at her house the night before when she ran to the bathroom to vomit after seeing Kelvin and Hods bloody heads. He didn’t comfort or coddle her then either. He also let his anger and frustration override her need to be comforted after the firebombing at Merlotte’s even though she was the one nearly killed.
But, like Sookie says, there have been a lot of turning points in her relationship with Eric, and the good news is that she is not so fragile that she can’t handle Eric. After all, Eric asked her if he was too big because…well he’s BIG! Sookie seemed confident she could handle him, but I don’t imagine it’s always such a pleasure or easy. Bring it on!!!
Fantastic post, Krtmd!!
I too had an early crush on Han Solo!! I never though of the similarities between Leia and Sookie, though! Characters who struggle with themselves are always so much more interesting than characters who only behave in one way. I wouldn’t want Eric any other way.
Great job!
Great post krtmd! I’ve never thought of the Han Solo- Eric parallel. I must thank you for opening my eyes
*worships*
I love the antiheroes. Their flaws make them more real, more palpable. Who wants a hard-working, selfless, boring geek? I like the cruel, (sometimes) evil, bad-ass dude. They’re fun and sexy. That’s why I read, love and enjoy fantasy books in the first place!duh!
Such an awesome post Krtmd
I lllooovvveee Star Wars, especially Han Solo and Leia (and Chewbacca hehe). So happy you brought up Tyler Durden, an antihero to remember.
I’ve always been more attracted to the antihero, male or female, in literature/movie/show. When the ‘hero’ gets too heroic, self sacrificing and humble, I get bored, I don’t connect at all. But antiheroes like f.ex. Book Eric, Barrons, Rhett and Han Solo keep my interest through out. I find myself discussing and contemplating their motives and actions, their pros and cons, their relationships with people around them. While the typical hero brings dull white to the page/screen, the antihero brings the whole color scale
I love Fight Club so much. My Tyler Durden crush is heavy, and leans toward Ed Norton rather than Brad Pitt – but both are quite yummy in a movie full of half naked bloody men punching each other.
Excellent post, as we’re all accustomed to seeing here. If you were the author, I would be much more comfortable, but unfortunately, you’re not. I don’t trust Ms. Harris, I think she obfuscates and sometimes even lies. I can understand her wanting to draw out the resolution as long as possible. After all, that sells more books and keeps True Blood running. This is the making of her career, and I don’t fault her for that. But she tends to be somewhat rigid, so I fear her idea of an HEA for this series.
Great post krtmd! Thankies!
I really liked your point about him changing because he loves Sookie, not because she wants him too….Eric is one of my all time favorite antiheroes because he is so flawed. And I think CH knows exactly what she is doing painting him as the ultimate lovable bad boy.
Antiheroes <3 Never liked the typical hero guy, always loved the damaged guy in the background would fuck up and then do something amazing… they are much more interesting! (ie: Spike, Wolverine, Sirius, Sandor, Damon… the list goes on). I think something that attracted me to the SV is not only Eric's "antiheroness", but the fact that, if you look at it, Sookie's story is that of someone becoming an antihero, which is really rare. Normally you either see the finished product, with flashbacks at best, or the good guy that becomes the bad guy.
Also, so many points for mentioning ASOIAF <3 It's what I used during the difficult times of no books and TB sucking balls. [And now I'm thinking of Eric in Westeros and, my god, that wouldn't be very pretty....]
WOLVERINE!!!! ahhhhhh yes, my other favourite bad boy.
Pure genius, krtmd! Can’t believe I never thought of the Han/Eric parallels since I worship Star Wars and make it a goal to drop quotes into everyday conversation. I am so going to use some of your examples when I teach about antiheroes in my English class. Archetypes are never a problem, but it’s the grey areas that are less straightforward which cause the kids problems. And I would get to talk about my fictional boyfriend in class. Win!
Great post! I’ve thought of Darcy/Elizabeth and Rhett/Scarlet but never Han/Leia. Eric is more complex because he has “grey” areas.
Awesome post krtmd!!! Loved it!
Anti-heroes are made of the yum and Eric is definitely an anti-hero. I’ve seen some of my other most favorite anti-heroes ever already listed in the comments above: Spike, Damon, Barrons, Sirius, Rhett (I think I had the hots for him before I even knew what the hots were!)
Although I also feel like the archetypal hero has his place as well. I LOVE me some Aragorn and Legolas (my elf-y!!!).
Great post krtmd… like you say the anti-heroes are the most interesting characters, both in literature and film. Never made the Star Wars connection before tho!
Humphrey Bogart in “In a Lonely Place” and “Casablanca” come to mind too. It’s when you have that connection to a character that isn’t black and white; they’re complex and always struggling. CH definitely paints Eric with that brooding, noir-ish brush…
also to be honest ever since reading Jane Eyre at the age of 12 I’ve always been attracted to the bad boys… Charlotte Bronte has got a lot to answer for!
Yes, how could I forget Mr. Rochester – I read it when I was 12ish as well and fell in love!
Excellent post, krtmd. I’ve always been fascinated with some of the antiheroes you mentioned (the Crow, Snake Plisskien, and obviously Ian Solo!), long before I met Eric Northman, but I have to say that Eric is THE antihero. I would add that, to me, the relationship bewteen the girl and the antihero is much more interesting and compelling than the one with the traditional hero. It’s always like that. With the antihero, there is a struggle, a contrast of personalities, a fight against the growing feelings.
I always love to discover the good qualities in an antihero. Not redeeming qualities, I don’t like to talk about redemption, but the better sides of his personality that were buried for so long. Also, when the bright side of an antihero comes to surface, it really shines…. More than any heroic action a traditional hero could ever do.
Same can be said for Eric, I think, and that’s exactly why I like him
I also believe that CH is simply annoyed by the fact that some people read in Eric the traditional “prince charming”, hence apparently ignoring all the controversial characterization that she so carefully built around this character, in order to make him a full-rounded, un-stereotyped figure. Seeing Eric as a “hero” is an oversimplification, and I guess Mrs. Harris isn’t happy about it, and has every right to be not!
Thank you…interesting post.. I also think that classic perfect hero is a bit boring … the attraction of antihero is in their imperfections and grayness which we can sometimes relate to …
For some reason this made me think of my favorite female heroines – actually ‘anti-heroines’ we can call them
Anna Karenina – with all her flaws and anxieties I couldn’t help but love her and feel for her……also Scarlet, loved her as well despite her selfishness… and most recently Lisbet Salander …
I love this post, krtmd! Bravo.
The anti hero has always been the most intriguing of characters in books, on the screen, and whether it be fiction or reality. The ambiguity,the motivation,and all of the layers that make up the complexity of the anti hero lined in shades of gray.
It works.
“6 duckpond10 2006-08-21 08:42
I had no idea that people would analyze the books this closely or identify with the characters so strongly. I do a lot of gray, because that’s how I see life. Things are sure a lot simpler if you see things black or white.
Charlaine Harris”
Again krtmd – excellent post.
[...] He’s the very definition of an anti-hero. If you would like to visit the Sookieverseblog, they spell out what an anti-hero is exactly. Check it out in their “Hero Worship” blog post here! [...]
Excellent post krtmd. Most people doesn’t even know or remember what is an anti-heroe. Name him Eric, Han Solo or Swayer (from Lost). The anti-heroe is always the key to success (and the hot stuff LOL).
Thank you for a wonderful analysis of Eric as the antihero. All of my favorite male leads are antiheroes — Mr. Darcy, Rhett Butler, Han Solo, Mr. Rochester, Spike (Buffy!), Dr. Horrible, and of course Eric. Oh and I want to add too others — Rockford from Rockford files and House.
I am not sure that I believe Charlaine doesn’t understand the hero worship of Eric. I also think that she does, she just doesn’t understand when fans put him on a pedastal. She doesn’t want him there. She molded the perfect anti-hero, why make him a traditional hero?
In the tradition of Gone with the Wind, Charlaine may in fact choose to end her series on a more painful note. I believe that to be the case. It will not diminish the romance but make us pine for Eric and Sookie love for all eternity.
What pains, saddens and frustrates me is that HBO and AB had the perfect antihero story and destroyed it. Due to an incomplete reading of the books, poor casting (except for Eric), and amateur script writing, we have a case of where the characteristic of a book antihero are being given to another character.
As I’ve said before, it’s as if Mr. Collins had all Mr. Darcy’s good scenes, but still retained his mousey demeanor. It’s an unthinkable occurance.
Well done, krtmd.
@Hann23 – Thanks for reminding me about The Rockford Files – Rockford is another perfect example of an antihero, and although I was a little young when I watched with my mother, it led to a lifetime long crush for her on James Garner.
Obviously I think Eric is an antihero, but I agree with all who have posted here that thinking of him in this way answers one of the big questions for readers. If these were really romance novels, Eric would not end up with Sookie – he’s just too flawed to be the romantic hero. Luckily for all of us, these aren’t romance novels.
wow!
amazing post…
i never know i was an antihero even before.
LOST – i love sowyer/sawyer
SUPERMAN – i also like lex
TRUE BLOOD – eric
Great post KRTMD! I’ve always found myself more drawn to the ‘greyer’, more ambiguous characters in fiction. I’ll hold my hands up and admit that I am yet another gal who had Han Solo as her first real fictional crush and it’s a pattern I’ve been doomed to follow ever since, prefering Eric to Beehl (since the very first appearance in the very first book)and Spike to Angel (I was a lost cause the moment he swaggered onto the screen). Then again I haven’t ever been someone who could stomach traditional romances and the standard Oh-So-Perfect handsome prince would be someone that would have me faking my own death and moving to another country in order to escape the crushing monotony of absolute perfection.
Spot on Krtmd! Love your post. And yup another Han Solo lover here *wave*.
I’ve always thought the antihero to be much more interesting than the typical goody-good hero.
The antihero is more provocative, less predictable and for me just more authentic. They accept who they are, don´t try to be someone else than they are. And they usually are much more funnier, with better sense of humor than the lovey-dovey types who are frequently ever so dull and smothery.
@Hime, I loved your comment and ITA.
I always thought Eric and Sookie’s story paralleled the storyline of General Hospital’s Luke and Laura. Remember innocent Laura was married to genteel Scotty (Bill). Bad guy Luke was a night club owner Sound familiar? Look at the Luke/Laura story.
1979: Laura & Scotty marry; Luke rapes Laura.Scotty tries to kill Luke.
1980: Luke & Laura run away together; Luke protects Laura from the mob (Authority?); Luke & Jennifer’s wedding; Laura tries to win Luke Back.
October 1980 In Beecher’s Corners, Luke and Laura make love for the first time and get “married” in a cigar-band ceremony.
September 1981 Luke saves the world from freezing at the hands of Mikkos Cassadine.
1981: Laura continues to try & win Luke back;Luke & Laura make daytime history & marry; They suffer Helena’s curse.(Witches)
January 1982 Laura disappears into the fog (Farrie?)and is presumed dead.
November 1983 Luke sees Laura on the lawn of the Mayor’s mansion after he’s sworn in as Port Charles new mayor.
1984: L&L’s Texas/Mexico adventure with Robert and Holly.(Texas.Mississippi?)
1985: Luke and Laura’s child is born!
1993: LnL’s return to Port Charles(Shreveport)! LnL’s 12th anniversary!
1994: Luke and Laura welcome their second child
1995: Laura blames Luke for bringing violence into the house after a mob shoot out and kicks him out. L&L reunite for their Anniversary!
1996: Laura goes on trial for Damian’s murder,
1997: Laura returns to PC alive while Luke is questioned about Katherines Shooting. Stefan (Niall?)banishes Laura to Switzerland, Shootout at Luke’s (Fangtasia). Helena returns to PC.
1998: Luke’s 1979 rape of Laura is revisited, Laura comes home, Luke frames Stefan for murder, Luke finds out that Nik is Stefan’s son, L&L break up.
1999: Stefan is revealed as Nikolas’ father,
October 3, 2001 Luke is injected with a bio-toxin, which cause him to think its 1983.
October 11, 2001 Luke and Laura dance at Wyndham’s, thinking it’s 1980.
November 2001 Laura saves Luke from Helena and Stavros.
2005: Laura is revealed to be in a catatonic state.
2006: Luke has Robin Scorpio and Patrick Drake bring Laura back; Laura returns; Laura and Luke remarry for the third tine on Nov. 16th. 25 years!
Luke was the anti hero that Laura loved even though he raped her and we all rooted for Luke. I have always thought CH used these two as her muses.
I can’t believe i didn’t left a comment after reading this.
I wonder what i was thinking!
GREAT POST krtmd! I admit (and i feel almost ashamed) i never watched Star Wars (i know, i know!!) but your post made me want to see the parallels you mentioned so i’ll watch it!!
OMG Mony. You may not end up being a Star Wars fan, but I insist you watch them. The original trilogy at least. George Lucas actually based the story on Joseph Campbell’s hero archetypes. Luke Skywalker, the hero (yawn), Han Solo the antihero, Leia the brave princess. They’re ridiculous and fabulous at the same time.
Also Mony – you could also watch for this comparison:
Luke/Han/Leia are Harry/Ron/Hermione
You’ve seen HP, I assume.
Great blog post krtmd. Although, I’m exactly the right age, Han wasn’t my hero – he seemed to old at the time, lol.
I think Eric is Darcy; a snob, seemingly cold, universally disliked by those who don’t know him well, expecting his will to be done, living with his own code, and willing to do what is seen as outside generally accepted conventions. I think he *gets* the girl too.
I this doesn’t belong in this section but I just saw on WetPaint.Feel free to move the post somewhere more suitable (I’m not registered in the forum that’s why I put it here).
“Love Sucks! Here Are The 10 Least Romantic Relationships on TV”
Alcide/Debbie made the list
Jaime and Cersei Lannister (On;y a few month until season two !)
Jimmy and Gillian Darmody (that one was difficult to watch to say the least)
some couple from Downtown Abbey etc….
Here is the link:
http://www.wetpaint.com/network/gallery/love-sucks-the-10-least-romantic-relationships-on-tv#1
krtmd, I totally agree with everything you said in this post.
There is something that has been bothering me. Its from a post from PMR. She wrote that Eric implied Sookie to be a slut in DAAD
I’d been to visit Calvin Norris,” I said, and Eric looked displeased.
“So you had his smell on you.”
“Well I gave him a hug good-bye, so yeah.”
Eric eyed me skeptically. “Had Alcide Herveaux been there?”
That he eyed her ‘skeptically’. Her reasoning is in this post – http://peppermintyrose.livejournal.com/23969.html?view=1099425#t1099425
What are your thoughts ? I hope im not alone in not having this view. But the problem is that i do find her argument persuasive….even though it is appalling! This to me is way tooooo close to black in the shades of grey.
My personal take on that conversation is a bit different. I would agree with her if Sookie had been around anyone else other than two men who have both openly and frequently expressed a romantic interest in her. For that reason, I think Eric’s comments were more a reflection of the possessive nature of vampires (something Sookie comments on over and over and over through the books) than about Eric implying she was a slut – ie. he is as suspicious of THEM as he is of her. But then, I guess being a possessive jerk and implying slutty behaviour are two sides of the same coin; they often go hand in hand.
I can see why she interprets it the way she has – and Eric can and does act like a jerk when he feels emotionally cornered – so I don’t really have a problem with naming and shaming that behaviour.
PMR’s links are being posted over here a lot lately (in the forum especially) seeking discussion and opinions on her posts, and I think it’s probably time for me to say that if people are having trouble with what she says, her site and her comments are the place to ask her for clarification. And I’m sure she’d appreciate the feedback as much as we do here
Oops…you are right. It was tacky of me. Sorry!
Just to clarify…i did write to her in the comments section and actually even wrote in CHs blog enquiring about this.
When i read the books, my understanding was that she was irritated at Eric’s possessiveness….just like the dancing incident at Rhodes. But the one word there – ‘skeptic’ – could be read into a completely different framework. So i meant to ask if anyone had any other way of explaining that word. Its just amazing and lovely how different people interpret the same thing (through the prism of their own experiences) – and i was hoping to get more of an insight into this situation.
It goes without saying that I would really really like for Eric to not have implied Sookie to be a slut!
It’s ok suv, not singling you out specifically
I’ve meant to raise it for a while now as the discussion about her posts has increased lately and this was just an opportunity
I see what you mean about the use of the word “skeptically” and how it indicates that he doubts Sookie’s assertion that she only hugged Calvin. But I still maintain that thinking she did something more with Calvin (or Alcide) – both of whom are known to her, both of whom Eric knows have interest in her – is not quite the same thing as implying Sookie is a slut who would bang any old supe that came along.
I think there’s definitely a leap that needs to be made between the two and I still fall on the side of him being a possessive jerk who is suspicious of pretty much everyone. He doesn’t reserve suspicion just for Sookie, after all, and neither was she ignored by his suspicious nature, particularly way back when. But that’s not to say I would put implying such a thing past him, either. I think he would, particularly as early as book 5 when he was already really pissy with himself and Sookie anyway.
As an aside, I really loved PMR’s discussion of the communication style between the two of them and why they will never have “the talk”. Something to think about.
You are absolutely right. There is a leap to needs to be made and I too chose to fall on the side of him being a possessive irritated viking! Thank you for showing me the difference. It reminds me of why i love this place and why i should just not go anywhere else!!!
I SOOOO need to not be obsessed
Of course Eric is not implying that Sookie is a slut. He of all people is very aware how choosy she is about who she sleeps with. She’s not even sleeping with him! He is jealous and possessive and maybe a bit insecure that Sookie is affectionate with other men but doesn’t hug him. Also he is concerned for her safety. She smells like shifter after hugging shifters. Sookie can’t smell them on herself, so she doesn’t understand that it is a big deal.
“I’d been to visit Calvin Norris,” I said, and Eric looked displeased.
“So you had his smell on you.”
“Well I gave him a hug good-bye, so yeah.”
Eric eyed me skeptically. “Had Alcide Herveaux been there?”
“He came by the house site,” I said.
“Did he hug you, too?”
“I don’t remember,” I said. “It’s no big deal.”
“It is for someone looking for shifters and Weres to shoot.
And you are hugging too many people.”
There was a bitten shifter turned sniper(Sweeties Des Arts) targeting other shifters/Were’s.
“So you had his smell on you”…
No big deal?
“It is for someone looking for shifters and Weres to shoot.”
And what happened to Sookie?
She was shot by Sweetie outside the library, when no other shifters or were’s were around.
Eric possessive? Sure. Concerned about Sookie’s safety? Absolutely.
Eric implying Sookie was slutty?
No way. I don’t agree with that assessment at all. Just saying.
I agree with you Leif. Eric is possessive, even jealous.
But I also see him leading her here, to draw conclusions in the conversation. ‘Someone is shooting weres and shifters, Sookie, and if you hug them, you smell like one.’
My interpretation is that Eric thinks that Alcide and Calvin both want Sookie (and he’s quite correct in this of course) so that he is skeptical about *their* motives, not hers. He probably figures Calvin/Alcide would use any old excuse to get physically close to Sookie and she’d accept it in all innocence as “no big deal” or just a hug goodbye, etc.
I don’t think Eric would ever suspect Sookie of sluttiness simply because I don’t think he’d be interested in her if she were like that.
I also detected an element of insecurity on Eric’s part. Who knows – he probably entertains the occasional paranoid daydream that Sookie will leave him for someone who’s alive by day.
…….or get together with someone who’s not him, seeing as in this case they are, haha, not yet together.
Sookie is obviously not a slut, and surely a 1000 year-old sex God would know a slut when he sees one;). Eric’s probably being both possessive and protective since he has more than one motive for everything he does.
I don’t know if anyone posted this yet but I just got my issue of T.V. Guide. There was a poster for PaleyFest inside and it does not look like True Blood will be there but The Vampire Diaries will be on March 10th
They seem to be doing alternate years so it’s not really unexpected…they did Paley in 2009 and 2011 – they didn’t go in 2010. There’s always ComicCon
From E!Online’s Spoiler Chat:
Eileen in Brooklyn: Anything you can tease about True Blood, like who is Sookie going to choose, Bill or Eric?
How about…neither? “We call it SEASON OF THE BROMANCE,” sexy star Alexander Skarsgård told us at a presser for his new movie Battleship. “We just started [filming] and we’re on episode four of season five. I have a lot with Steve [Stephen Moyer] this year,” he said, quipping, “Eric is very intrigued by Bill now.” Honestly, we’re Team Eric no matter whom he hooks up with (especially if he’s nekkid)! TV’s Top Couple round two, y’all?
http://uk.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/spoiler_chat_daily_new_couple_on_true/294437
SEASON OF THE BROMANCE?! wtf that’s disgusting
Thanks for the link but it’s a bit off topic on a book post
Incidentally, that right there is but one of multiple reasons we aren’t covering the show anymore. Eric is “intrigued by Bill”? What the fuck ever, Alan. It’s not bad enough that YOU have a Bill boner the size of Texas…now Eric needs to have one too? Yeah ok, but I don’t have to watch it.
Forum discussion here: http://www.sookieverseblog.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=2310&start=15
Oh, I’m so sorry. I didn’t know about the forum so I decided to post this on the most recent post. No more thoughtless posting in the future, I promise. I just couldn’t stop myself, so bad was that
No problem
Excellent article! I read that interview and I thought ¡ we probably have a happy ending for the bad guy!