When This Witch Is Defeated…
November 30, 2012 in Amnesia Eric, Dead Ever After - Book 13, Dead to the World - Book 4, Eric Northman, Sookie & Eric, Sookie Stackhouse
by krtmd
Since the release of Deadlocked, I’ve been reading all over the interwebs about how Eric has always been interested in power above everything else, and that the marriage contract with Freyda is a done deal. People have him so gone, they’re expecting Pam to turn up any moment with a bunch of liquor boxes and packing tape. Well, not me. Perhaps I’m in denial, but I’ve always expected Eric to make good on the promises his amnesiac self made back in Dead to the World, and I’m even more convinced now that he will. In fact, I think he’s already done it, in part. Not only are those promises more easily fulfilled than you might think, but they are also mirrored by what Sookie thinks and says in Deadlocked.
There were two big promises that AE made to Sookie in Dead to the World. Let’s give them a look, shall we?
Promise #1
“When this witch is defeated, I would bring you to my side. I will share everything I have with you. Every vampire who owes me fealty will honor you.”
~Eric, Dead to the World
Of course, when Eric makes this promise, he’s not quite himself. Unsurprisingly, Sookie didn’t believe him. At the time, she called it a wonderful fantasy. As any devoted SVM fan knows, Eric wakes after the witch’s curse is lifted with no memory of his time with Sookie, and it is four more books before his memories return and they rekindle their unconventional relationship. But rather than an empty promise, I think Amnesia Eric’s promise was CH’s way of smacking us with the foreshadowing bat.
So, what part of that promise has Eric already delivered? First, he married her, vampire-style. Nothing says “bringing you to my side” quite like passing a ceremonial knife around in front of Victor Madden. I know, I know. “But krtmd,” you say, “the marriage doesn’t mean anything to Sookie.” True, while the marriage offers Sookie some protection and respect in the vampire world, Sookie doesn’t view them as really married, at least as it pertains to her in the human world. But Eric does, so in essence he has brought Sookie to his side. Additionally, he’s willing to share everything he has with her, although in typical Sookie fashion, she’s reluctant to accept it. And that’s as it should be. Until they are settled in a relationship she views as a marriage, it would be out of character for Sookie to accept these things.
Now what about all those vampires honoring her? Well, I can’t speak for them, but it’s actually Freyda who brings to our attention how Eric’s vamps feel about Sookie, when she comes to see what Eric loves. From Deadlocked:
“Pam is fond of you,” [Freyda] said, not answering me directly. “This one, too.” She jerked her head at Bubba. “I don’t know why, and I want to know.”
“She’s kind,” Bubba said immediately. “She smells good. She has good manners. And she’s a good fighter, too.”
I smiled at the addled vampire. “Thank you, Bubba. You’re a good friend to me.”
Freyda eyed the famous face as if she were mining secrets from it. She turned her gaze back to me. “Bill Compton still likes you despite the fact that you’ve rejected him,” Freyda said quietly. “Even Thalia says you’re tolerable. Bill and Eric have both been your lovers. There must be something to you besides the fairy blood. Frankly, I can barely detect your fairy heritage.”
Even Thalia says she’s tolerable? Considering how Thalia feels about humans, I’d call that a ringing endorsement. We can split hairs and say that none of that implies honor, but I’d say that Eric’s vampires have at least a healthy respect for Sookie, and in the case of Bubba, Bill and Pam, outright love and affection.
Promise #1? Check.
Promise #2
“We could go back,” he said. In the dome light of the car, his face looked hard as stone. “We could go back to your house. I can stay with you always. We can know each other’s bodies in every way, night after night. I could love you.” His nostrils flared, and he looked suddenly proud. ”I could work. You would not be poor. I would help you.”
“Sounds like a marriage,” I said, trying to lighten the atmosphere. But my voice was too shaky.
“Yes,” he said. ~Dead to the World
So, this is the big promise, right? The one we’re waiting for? The one where Eric gives up everything to be with Sookie – and chooses the love over the power? Again, I’ve seen readers on all kinds of fan sites and forums, Eric-loving or not, convinced that Eric will, of course, choose the power Freyda offers over the love that Sookie offers.
But does Eric really desire power? Sookie’s observations in From Dead to Worse, while she awaits the coming takeover:
I mined my head for other bits of information. Five, at the top of the state, stretched nearly all the way across. Eric was richer and more powerful than I’d thought. Below him, and fairly even in territory, were Cleo Babbitt’s Area Three and Arla Yvonne’s Area Two. A swoop down to the Gulf from the southwestern most corner of Mississippi marked off the large areas formerly held by Gervaise and the queen, Four and One respectively … I was pondering the undeniable truth that the most powerful vampire in the state of Louisiana, at this very point in time, was Eric Northman, my blood-bonded, once-upon-a-time lover. Eric had said in my hearing that he didn’t want to be king, didn’t want to take over new territory; and since I’d figured out the extent of his territory right now, the size of it made that assertion a little more likely.
I believed I knew Eric a little, maybe as much as a human can know a vampire…I didn’t believe he wanted to take over the state, or he would have done so. I did think his power meant there was a giant target pinned to his back.
I would argue that Eric desires power only for the independence and autonomy it can provide. Although Freyda comments that it’s an “illusion of independence”, she’s also not wrong when she says that Eric has “been content to be sheriff for a long time. He enjoys being a big fish in a small pond.” He respected Queen Sophie-Anne, and she left him alone to run his area as he saw fit. This was a key reason for he and Victor butting heads. While Victor was threatened by what he saw as the biggest obstacle in his quest for power in Louisiana, Eric seemed mostly irritated that Victor was interfering in the business of Area 5 rather than leaving Eric to run his area independently. That, and those nasty attempts on the lives of his wife and second in command.
As for Freyda’s offer, by the end of Deadlocked we see that Eric is already giving up the power for the love. He’s been fighting the marriage contract since Freyda wrote to him in Dead Reckoning. And that test from Niall, where he told Eric about the cluviel dor, so Sookie would know how Eric would act if he knew she had power? If Eric were really mad for power, wouldn’t he have simply taken it or demanded that she give it to him? But instead he hinted to her that she had the power to make the marriage contract go away – “You could stop this if you chose.” In my opinion, this is what Niall means when he says Eric’s only flaw is Sookie. Instead of acting as a perfect vampire would – taking the last cluviel dor on earth for himself – he hints that Sookie could use it to help them both. That rat bastard, wanting her to use the CD so he could stay with his human lover – how could he?
Additionally, Eric choosing to stay with Sookie will be against what turned out to be the final wishes of his maker, Appius Livius “You won’t keep him” Ocella. While some readers have trouble seeing this, it seems clear as day to me why this is a difficult choice for Eric. A vampire has got to mind their maker – even Bill could empathize with how Eric felt about this. It’s hard-wired into their being, and virtually impossible to resist. Remember Mickey? So I can see how it’s a conflict for Eric to resist his maker’s orders, even after his death. That said, I think we will ultimately see Eric refuse Freyda’s offer in DEA, even though I suspect this will complicate matters with Felipe. And thus Eric will give up the trappings of his world in exchange for sharing Sookie’s life with her. Second promise? Check.
So, what about what Sookie wants? Towards the end of Deadlocked, when Sookie is fantasizing about all the things she’d like to have happen, she thinks to herself:
I had a fantasy that when we got to my house, Eric would be sitting on the back steps waiting for me. He would have ditched all his Nevada company. He would be waiting to assure me that he had sent Freyda packing, that he’d told her how much he loved me, that he never wanted to leave me no matter how much power and wealth she offered him. He would be shooting a final bird at his maker, Appius Livius Ocella. All the vampires in his sheriffdom would be happy about his decision because they liked me so much.
That sounds a lot like Promise #1 again, doesn’t it? The witch Freyda will be defeated, Eric will stay with Sookie, and all the vampires who owe fealty to Eric will be happy about it. Not only that, but how about the offer she makes him the night of her birthday, when he tells her Felipe will punish them if he stays? From Deadlocked:
“Then we’ll leave,” I said quietly. “We’ll go somewhere else. You’ll work for some other king or queen. I’ll find a job.” But even as I spoke the words, I knew he would not opt for this. In fact, I found myself wondering if I would have said it if I’d believed there was any chance he’d say yes. On the whole, I thought I would, though it would have meant leaving everything I found dear.”
That sounds a lot like Promise #2 to me. And much like Sookie felt in Dead to the World that it wouldn’t be right for her to keep Eric from his life, Eric replies that he can’t tear Sookie away from hers. Additionally, Sookie’s reluctance to use the cluviel dor to prevent the marriage and keep Eric with her also mirrors how she felt when Amnesia Eric offered to stay with her – that it would be profoundly wrong to keep someone via magical means. And people think Dead to the World is just a fun little side trip to hot shower scenes and crazy were witches.
Much is also made of Sookie’s desire to come first with someone. While I can understand the sentiment, I don’t think Sookie means that she wants to come first to the exclusion of everything else. Specifically, I don’t think it means she needs Eric to give up his role as Sheriff in order to put her first, no matter that she wished in Dead Reckoning that he was “just an average vampire”. To paraphrase one of my favorite bands, you can’t always get what you want, but sometimes, you get what you need. So just because Sookie wants an Eric who is free of political entanglements, I don’t think she’ll get that – certainly not one who relinquishes all status and responsibility to become a pawn or a loner. And as frustrating as it is for Sookie that Eric has all this bullshit (for lack of a better word) to contend with, she knows deep down that Eric and the Bullshit are a package deal. All relationships require compromise, and Eric and Sookie’s is no exception. And lest you think I’m indicating that only Sookie will have to compromise, I’m not. I don’t think we’ll see Sookie quit Merlotte’s and move to Shreveport to live in Eric’s house, as much as I think this is what Eric would prefer. Sookie is going to keep her life in Bon Temps, and share as much of it as possible with Eric. Ms. Harris has promised us an unconventional HEA, after all.
So, where does this leave us for Dead Ever After? We have two characters, Sookie and Eric, who are in love with each other. They’ve essentially made the same promises to each other, or at a minimum have hoped for the same things – the chance for the outside forces that are conspiring to keep them apart to be defeated in some way and sent packing so that they can be together. I’ve already said that I think we will ultimately see Eric turn down Freyda’s offer. I’m convinced he’s been considering it only because it would be a way to avoid retribution for killing Victor. So of course, when the Freyda door closes for good, the Felipe de Castro door swings wide open.
Rethinking the synopsis we’ve seen for Dead Ever After, it’s entirely possible that the reason for Eric’s silence and Sookie’s devastation isn’t Freyda at all, but rather Eric’s punishment for killing Victor. We know Karin will be coming to town, and I can’t imagine any other reason for that to happen other than political maneuvering. Felipe’s grasp on his territory is weak, so I have a hard time envisioning a scenario where it’s good for him that his strongest Sheriff leaves his state to stand at the side of a powerful rival, no matter what Eric might be whispering in Freyda’s ear. The only gain is that Sookie would be left behind; no longer wed to Eric and under his protection, and therefore free to be relocated to Nevada to read minds for Felipe. That doesn’t sound like a HEA for Sookie, now does it?
Obviously, there are still more questions than answers – and it’s a long wait until May. I’m not sure how the Felipe thing will play out, how Karin will fit in, or how ambitious Pam might be about her own position. I don’t know what Freyda and Felipe have been talking about behind closed doors, but I sure as hell want to.
What do I know? That Eric and Sookie have been through too much together to toss in the towel now, and that I remain more convinced than ever that Sookie’s HEA has tall, blonde and dead written all over it.



You know how often I agree with *everything* someone posts? Lol, just about never but there is not one single thing here to quibble about. I think it’s gospel
Bravo! Although I am a pessimist to the core, I truly believe it is Eric and Sookie all the way.
Loved it, krtmd! Of course I agree and never had a doubt it would be blond, tall and dead since the fourth book. Little collies, I mean bar owners don’t scare me off, the tiger has his plate full, the wolf has been out of the running for some time now and just because I don’t see it any other way. Not in the books I read, at least.
BRAVO krtmd!!!
This post is gold. I agree with every single things you just said and your analysis is really accurate and fits perfectly with everything we’ve been told for the entire series. it’ll be a loooong waiting!
Oh thank you so much for this wonderful and well thought out post, krtmd!
I have always held the belief that DTTW would coincide with the final book of the Sookie Stackhouse Novels. I have always held the belief that Eric would choose love (Sookie) over power and advancement; “She won’t win.”
It’s also my belief that Sookie WANTS Eric to choose her; “Eric’s MY team.”
Now it’s up to Sookie to choose Eric. Choose to fight for him, choose to fight to keep him, choose him once and for all. Finally.
I don’t need everything wrapped up in a tidy bow.
I don’t expect Happily Ever After in a conventional sense.
What I would like?
DEAD EVER AFTER…between the Viking and the Telepath.
Yeah, that
Excellent post KRTMD. Careful Krtmd and Leif, you’ll be accuse of Sookie hating asking Sookie to choose. IMO Eric has chosen when he assured Sookie that “she won’t win” and the only big obstacle is the legally binding (in vampire world) contract and retribution for killing Victor. Sookie is too scared to loose Eric in DL to really listen to what Eric said. He said “she won’t win” and he also mention that their life won’t be worth living under Felipe if he refuse. I think he wants her reassurance as much as she wants his that she choose to be with him and help him fight this together.So far Sookie haven’t indicate to Eric that she choose him, she just wants him to tell other monarch to f*** off which is easier said than done. I remember in DR, his reason for not telling Sookie how to break the bond is because he’s scared she might decide to leave him because of his vampire BS. I think she’ll get there in DEA, when she have more time to think about it. Eric is vulnerable at the moment and isn’t it one of the things Sookie loves about amnesiac Eric. He’s so vulnerable and so dependent on Sookie and she felt good being needed and looked up to. Hurry up May!
*Applauds KRTMD!* I could not have said it better myself.
Is it May yet?
so beautiful! I agree, Eric is a fucking viking of 1000 years old, with a big territory and a lot of money, if he wanted more power, he would have more power, he would not have marry anyone, much less marry just to be a consorte, who has by definition limited power, Freyda knows that Eric is stronger and more powerful, and if he wanted to be king – he would be king. But if he were left alone, as at the time of Sophie-Ane, he would be a powerful ally and trustworthy, and that is why she wants Eric in first place: a second strong and forced to her by contract, but someone who does not has the ambition to take his “throne”. For a long time I’ve been asked about Felipe, he has a strong and powerful ally in Eric, and with Victor dead, if Eric is left alone in his corner and in Louisiana with his wife, he would have security of a sheriff strong and loyal, I just hope he thinks about it.
I wish I could “like” this post a thousands times over.
Thanks for your insights Krtmd, I always enjoy hearing them and end up agreeing with them. It’s Eric and Sookie til the end, we just have to have faith
Wonderful post! I loved it!
Excellent post Krtmd! I agree with everything you wrote. Now hopefully the Maker also sees it your way.
Despite my frustration towards that stupid TV show and other aspects of the fandom, these books just keep drawing me back and drawing me in. When I tune out the external bullshit and hysteria that surrounds them and it’s just me, Sookie and a paperback – they just make sense.
There’s a wonderful sense of symmetry when you can chart a path from an early book through to the final resolution of the story like this. The fact that you can do this so easily for Eric and Sookie’s arc (and this is by no means the only example of it) just underscores my belief that there has always been a mud-map in place with the final destination in mind.
And that “Eric lovers must create things to worry about”.
Wonderful post, K x
Obviously I agree SVB.
And thanks for providing a place for these kinds of discussions to take place.
Well, crazy needs company
Great post krtmd! I agree with absolutely everything you said.
YES, 100% YES! Like probably everyone else on this blog, I got chills when I read Sookie say “Then we’ll leave,” I said quietly. “We’ll go somewhere else. You’ll work for some other king or queen. I’ll find a job.” We’re coming full circle – I feel it too.
I loved this from DL as well. “I watched television for a while—an old black-and-white movie about a man and a woman who loved one another but had to overcome all sorts of things to be together…”
***”I would argue that Eric desires power only for the independence and autonomy it can provide. Although Freyda comments that it’s an “illusion of independence”, she’s also not wrong when she says that Eric has “been content to be sheriff for a long time. He enjoys being a big fish in a small pond.””***
Yep! This is conveniently overlooked by some – but as you noted, it’s right in the text. MANY times.
In DR, Bill says to Sookie: “Though we can’t stand each other, I know Eric will try his best to get out of this situation simply because he loves his freedom. Oklahoma is very beautiful, and Eric loves beauty, but he already has that in you”…..”She also has a lot of power. That is, she has territory, minions, real estate, oil money.”
Sookie then thinks to herself, “And we both knew Eric loved power. Not complete power–he’d never wanted to be a king–but he loved being able to call the shots in his own bailiwick.
It seems to me that Eric, the most rich & powerful vampire in the state of Louisiana, already has everything that Freyda has to offer… power, territory, subordinates, real estate, money. If he was really after more (and would it really be HIS when it belongs to Freyda), as Sookie said, he would have already done so. On his own terms, calling his own shots. Not as someone’s ‘consort’.
But more importantly – Eric would lose what he loves & values most… Sookie, and the kind of power he loved – his freedom, and the ability to “call the shots in his own bailiwick”.
Great post krtmd! Loved every word. I’m so ready for this book!
Wahoooooo!!!!! Awesome post krtmd! Agree with every word, and when you put it all together so neatly it is just wonderful to read.
Of course Eric doesn’t love power and wealth enough to become Freyda’s boy toy. He loves power and wealth so he can control his own life, be independent and left alone. He wants to “own his own life”.
Love the DTTW contrasts. Their story arc is so consistent throughout the whole series and during rereads it just becomes more and more obvious that their relationship is the long progression and final outcome. Can’t wait for DEA!
Well said krtmd. Awesome post is awesome
Thanks for this nice and optimistic post. It really does not make sense to have anything else but Eric and Sookie together at the end. I also loved the parallels made between DL and DTTW, it was so obvious. Why would we have so much happening between them, so much build up at the beginning and all the obstacles..also there were so many examples why he was made for Sookie and why Sookie was made for him…they had this connection from the early books and if CH knew what she wanted even then..well then there is no other answer.
It’s interesting I found this post this morning because I swear I had this dream last night, I’ll share it.. my husband gave this tick book and and I looked and saw it was DEA. I was really excited and was thinking if I should look to see the ending..Was flicking through the pages and saw word Eric all over the place and was thinking – this is good, I cannot wait to read it..and then suddenly I realized that the book was in Swedish and I thought – oh fuck how am I to read it now (this is probably because I am learning Swedish and the moment and it’s hard as hell)…but then I went to the last page and the last sentence was Sookie saying something like ‘so I’ll go on then to get him/or fight for him’ something like that..and I remember thinking – ha, this is why she has those red boots on…. that’s it…so let’s hope it’s some kid of prophecy
I think I love you right now.
What an awesome dream!
well having read all the books i can say that Eric And Sookie will get their HEA for sure i can only hope that the witch sorry i mean the queen of oklahoma will get the point and leave eric alson from the start it is clear that Eric cares about Sookie and i will be sad when this amazing set comes to an end
Hallelujah! Praise the Lord!! I pretty much agree with everything you said!! Great post!!! I flove book posts here!
Excellent post, krtmd. Seriously – spot on AWESOME
. I love how thoroughly you’ve connected the dots, and though I’ve been confident Eric and Sookie are the endgame for a looong time, I absolutely adore how your literary detective work on this cements my gut feeling. It’s all been there in the text, this whole time, and you’ve highlighted all the clues beautifully!
Fantastic post, Krtmd!
Wonderful post! I agree with every word! Reading the last three books, I’d forgotten how beautifully the story used to fit together, for me. I felt like Sookie and Eric were getting off track and were putting off things that were far too important to wait until the last minute to fix (like communication issues post blood bond). But you’ve shown me that the final books are still leading us down the path I feel like CH set up back in DTTW. I’m looking forward to May more than ever now!
Excellent post Krtmd!
Agreed with everything posted about Eric.. i will be so disappointed, if Sook doesnt end up with Eric.. he is her better half IMO & vice versa.. i mean as love stories go, CH is the one who is going Twilight on us in the last book with all the differ POV’s all of a sudden.. i’ve never been a fan of Sook in personality , but i never liked Billy at all after book 3 & didnt like Billy in LDID either.. it would be a shame for CH to try & redeem Billy for all his misdeeds this late in the game.. i’m team Eric all the way, & book Sook grows on me vs. TB Sook.. regardless of her PTSD issues :-/
The only one who ever said that all Eric wanted was power was Bill. And he’s a manipulative liar who wants Eric out of the way. Pam, Freyda, even Niall all pointed out that Eric only wanted enough power not to be on the bottom. If Eric had wanted to be king, he would have been one already. There is no power in being some upstart vampire queen’s sex toy. Eric’s maker still treated him as a sex slave even after 1,000 years and basically sold him to QOO. We never did find out what it was that Appius was supposed to get out of this bargain. Maybe this is an important detail. Personally, I expect Sookie and Eric to kick Freyda’s and Felipe’s asses in the last book. This book should be about tying all the lose ends, not about Sookie falling in bed with someone new.
Yes to all of this!
STANDING OVATION!! Loved this post!
Wow,krtmd,what an amazing piece of writing and analysis. I agree with every word, and thank you. Thanks to you, too, svb, for providing the best place on the internet to discuss these books we’ve all loved so much. I wish it didn’t have to end.
Honestly, Pam has been my fav female through-out this series ( even though she is a vampire).. what can i say, i love Eric & his progeny :-p … i hope we get some Pam action ( POV) in the last book that might sway me to Sook or not :-/ but i love Eric because CH created an awsome guy in this character that TB simply destroyed IMO.. it’s so annoying IMO what the show has done to make a point about drugs, & politics & everyday society & whatnot.. the show should not have sacraficed Eric’s character unless for some greater purpose… Sook better choose wisely IMO in this last book & that excludes Sammy IMO.. what a fucking bore Sam is :-p
IATM,
I would love a Pam POV. She is such a great friend to Sookie. I hope Pam gets a good ending too because she deserves it. I still worry a little bit about Pam getting killed off. I hope that is not the case.
Solid theory and I agree that CH has set this up a long time ago. She’s thrown things in their way, but it’s Eric that Sookie consistently goes back to every time. Like she says, they get each other.
On point 1, Eric not only married Sookie, he did it the way he said – he brought her to his side and married her. That’s why it’s a vampire marriage. It would be no different if he were still a Viking and she were a Saxon he picked up when he went raiding. He’d still bring her to his side in his homeland and marry her after his customs. And for all of Sookie’s protests, just like the blood bond, she never asks him how to break the marriage. She also counts on the marriage and the bond when she’s in trouble. While I think she wants him to offer to marry her by US law, she’s comfortable with being his bride by vampire law with all the protection it affords her. Notice when she tells Sam about it he doesn’t think it’s nothing even when she tries to indicate it is.
And his vampires do honor her. They fight and die for her. They watch over her and go after her when Eric can not. Even the ones who do not like her are forced to fight for her. If she says they don’t like her, Eric sets them straight and tells her they will be there for her.
Eric is actually the one who has been married and I don’t think its by accident that he spends so much time telling her about his marriage when she comes to Fangtasia just to feel better. He goes into detail about how young he was when he married his brother’s widow. He said he always liked her and she was agreeable to the marriage. They had six children and three lived. He seemed to enjoy remembering. He told Sookie that when Aud and the baby died, he buried her in her finery with her best brooch in a nice crypt. He was telling Sookie how he honored and cared for his wife and family. When Aud died, he went to find another wife. Eric isn’t a play boy at heart, but I think he hasn’t found anyone he’s respected in hundreds of years. He says he hasn’t felt this way for hundreds of years.
And remember why Eric marries Sookie…he marries her so Victor and Felipe cannot take her from the place she loves. He does it to protect her. Eric may have power, but he always thinks about those in his “retinue” when he takes action. He surrenders to Felipe rather than see the vampires in his area be killed. He isn’t bitter about it, he’s pragmatic. Sookie even comments on it. Eric always protects those in his care, that’s why vampires like to work for him and live in his area.
He also tells Sookie that she is his wife in the only way that matters to him. I believe him when he says he’ll find a way out of this. While a part of him may want her to love him enough to use the Cluviel Dor to break the contract, this is Eric and he always has a backup plan. I don’t believe for a second that Felipe, having lost Victor, is okay with Freyda having Eric. Not a chance. Eric is Felipe’s strongest asset in LA now. He has no one else in the state with all the other sheriff’s and his regent dead. If he has any hope of holding that state he must keep Eric. And there is no way Eric would go to Freyda knowing that Felipe would take Sookie back to LV to read human minds for him. He married her to stop that so I can’t believe he would throw her to the king now. He’s way too crafty for that. I believe wholeheartedly that he’s conspiring with Felipe to take Freyda offguard and steal her state. It’s just what Felipe needs (the oil) to rebuild LA after Katrina. Forget how power hungry people think Eric might be, Felipe is definitely power hungry and Eric is under his command.
I also don’t buy this nonsense that Eric is so power hungry. NONSENSE. Eric is one sheriff in a Northern part of LA. That part was nothing until Katrina wiped out New Orleans. If he was so ambitious he would have been in charge of New Orleans or SA’s consort. I think he liked Northern LA because everyone left him alone. He didn’t have the most powerful part of LA so no one would come after him. He was a Viking in life so if he wanted power, he could have slain all his enemies and made it to the top.
There is no way Eric is going to go be Freyda’s lackey, dependent on her for every cent. That’s what a consort is. Look at Prince Phillip in England as exhibit A. Talk about a man with no power! Eric isn’t going to be happy being Freyda’s unpaid muscle, running around at her beck and call. With Sookie he is a Viking god with loads of experience and funds that she does not have. While he treats her more like an equal, I think he likes that he’s older, wiser and can advise her and care for her. He likes it. He gets upset when she rejects his advice or his offers to help her. He doesn’t see it as paying her like a prostitute, he sees it as caring for his wife. There’s no way he’s going to flip that to be in such a dependent role with Freyda. Not once when Eric speaks do we hear him yearning for the power he’d get with Freyda. To me this is all made up stuff when Bill gets pissy. Look at who tells her these things. It is a bunch of jealous males. Not once has Eric shown himself to be this power hungry maniac.
I was rereading Definitely Dead and it struck me that there are a lot of parralels between Sookie and Eric and Hadley and SA. SA gets betrothed to PT and must set Hadley aside. Hadley gets upset. She acts out. SA feels bad and understands. She still really loves Hadley and wants to know how she died. She tells Sookie why she turned Hadley (because her uncle had molested her the way SA had been molested).
So here we have Sookie and Eric, both survivors of abuse themselves. Sookie at the hands of her uncle and Eric at the hands of his maker. Eric loves her and brings her to his side. She’s definitely his favorite. He makes that abundantly clear with the blood bond and the marriage. Now he’s having this vampire marriage thrust on him and he must set Sookie aside. She is broken hearted and he is upset by her pain. He’s worried that Freyda might hurt her.
It’s very similar to SA and Hadley. It makes me wonder if that is also foreshadowing. Maybe SA will return to help them overthrow Freyda, marry Felipe and Eric can go back to sheriff of Area 5 with his little human bride that he loves so much. Would it be so hard to think SA would help them because of her guilt over what happened to Hadley? She was fond of Sookie and she was definitely fond of Eric.
QSA died in FDTW during the takeover by Nevada after being left weakened with no legs and Andre dead after Rhodes (ATD)
After Victor entered Sookie’s house, he said to Eric; “Your queen is dead, Viking.”
Yes but he said the same of Wybert as well and he showed back up and almost killed Felipe, Eric and Sam. Victor didn’t show himself to be the most reliable of sources.
Thank you so much for the review, I’m gonna re-read it to digest over the few days. The
recollected comments of Thalia to Sookie, and your implications of Karin’s involvement
have given me something to think about too.
Thank you for this post is my Christmas is early!
CH can not kill a character like Eric Northman making him acquire a certain “power” on simple nuptials! this is a fucking warrior with legendary cruelty!
Felipe has already lost victor he will unconscious losing also Eric and I’m sure Pam and Bill will play an important role in the last book! especially Pam!
I always read your theory and through you never abandoned your conviction on volume 4 and just like you we demonstrate forcefully the book 4 is very important.
thank you for always believing and sorry for my english!
kisses
Thank you krtmd! Great post.
DL was definitely a mirror to DTTW in many ways.
One great insight into Eric and Sookie’s personalities is also found in ‘Dead and Gone’, where Sookie seeks Eric out after Crystal’s murder and tells Eric about her horrific day. For the first time Sookie is completely venerable in front of Eric and he responds in kind by telling her about his human life, his feeling about his wife, children and his Maker. But Eric is more concerned about the FBI seeking Sookie out.
Eric says, “You don’t want to work for them.” (FBI) Eric’s bright blue eyes were intent on my face. “You don’t want to leave.”
I pulled my hand out from under his. I watched my hands clasp each other, twist. “I don’t want people to die because I wouldn’t help them,” I said. I felt my eyes brim with tears. “But I’m selfish enough that I don’t want to go wherever they send me, trying to find dying people. I couldn’t stand the wear and tear of seeing disaster every day. I don’t want to leave home. I’ve been trying to imagine what it would be like, what they might have me do. And it scares me to death.”
“You want to own your own life.” Eric said.
“As much as anyone can”
“Just when I think you’re very simple, you say something complex,” Eric said.
“Are you complaining?” I tried to smile, failed.
“No.”
This little dialogue between Eric and Sookie is very telling. He’s not questioning Sookie he’s reading her like a book, he understands how she feels because he feels the same way. There’s a lot of compulsion in the vampire world. First Maker’s and then Vampire politic’s and the age and strength of older vampires. Eric’s had a thousand years of experience and has survived it. Now he see’s very plainly how the violence of the human and supernatural world is affecting Sookie.
There’s no way Eric will leave Sookie, he loves her. He sees what a good person she is.
Eric has remained Sheriff of NW Louisiana for the same reasons that Sookie doesn’t want to work for the FBI.
I couldn’t agree more with your post. I often read how people see these two as very different, but while they do have some differences, they are actually very similar. As Sookie herself says at one point in the third book, they get each other.
I also agree that there is no way Eric will leave Sookie. He’s done too many things to protect her from leaving her home. He made the blood bond with her to prevent Andre from doing so because she would have been at SA’s beck and call in New Orleans (probably living at Amelia’s apt the way Hadley had done). He marries her by Vampire Law to prevent Victor or Felipe from taking her to Las Vegas. He’s concerned that the FBI can force her to do their bidding (Can they do that in this country?)
People also forget that while Eric would like Sookie to come live with him and work at Fangtasia, he understands that she wants her independence and she must keep working with humans so she doesn’t lose the ability to tune them out. He only brings up Sookie living with him when she’s in constant danger and he can’t bear it.
And just like Eric, Sookie understands that while AE is willing to leave his world to come live with her, Eric with is memories would never be okay with that. Eric wants just enough power to be independent, something that Sookie herself wants. Throughout the series, Sookie has wanted just enough money not to have to worry about whether she can eat or pay the electric. She’s never wanted to be fabulously wealthy.
And while Eric might enjoy a good fight, he is never shown to slughter just to get ahead. He’ll fight to protect himself and those under his dominion and care, but he doesn’t needlessly slaughter. Sookie is the same. When she’s pushed against the wall and in danger, she will come out fighting to protect herself. She’ll do the same for those she loves (see Jason, Sam, Tara).
It’s always struck me that while Sookie may not conciously understand what’s happening between her and Eric, the reason she always wants to talk to him and why he soothes her, indeed the reason he “gets” her, is because they are quite a bit alike.
I keep hoping that she’ll have that revelation in the end.
This is an amazing post. I couldn’t agree more. It’s Sookie and Eric in the end. There’s no other option.
Sorry to say but Eric and Sookie are not destined for the big hereafter. 3 things we know about Sookie:
1. She can’t be with someone she can “hear”
2. She, in no uncertain terms, wants to be a vampire
3. She wants to be married with kids
Who can deliver all three? Sam. But you say that Sookie can “hear” him? I bet anything that once he died in the last book he comes back with his mind switched off like the vampires’. Plus, Harris has been setting this up for years. The last couple of books she has pulled Sookie and Eric further apart…not that they ever got a chance to really be together like her and Bill. Sam is now over his crazy girl period and Sookie is tired of vampire politics. Now is the perfect time. Also, if Harris wants to people to be together or anything else to happen, she doesn’t always make it realistic. Come on, for how many books were we set up with how important the blood bond was and then when Harris wanted to separate Erik and Sookie she came up with the stupidest of ways, a witch cantation(?) she just said out loud. Such a ripoff.
Hey Carlie – you’re certainly entitled to your opinion. Although it seems like forever, May will be here before we know it – and then we’ll all know how it ends. I make no bones that I think it’s Eric, as I assume is obvious by the post.
I’m not sure I agree with your assessment that how Sookie broke the BB was a rip off. Since the bond has it’s root in magic, it seems believable within the framework of the Sookieverse that there should be a magical way to end it. There was a symbolic gesture – the red yarn they all held. They burned herbs in little jars, and yes they recited an incantation. When Sookie cut the yarn, Amelia reminded Sookie to ‘mean it’, putting intention behind the magic. Of course, none of this is real – but I found it realistic in the story. And moving. I’m sure I’m not the only one who cried when she did it, even though I thought it needed to be done.
I hear what you are saying. I just thought it was all too easy. I would have liked to have seen the struggle Sookie and Erik go through, having the bond, but trying to lead separate lives. I think it would have made the story much more emotionally complex than just severing it off. I think it was a cop out on Harris’ part. But come May we won’t have any disagreeing left to do—at least I hope!
I just see it differently than you do. Sookie has never come straight out and said she wants children, she feared they would be able to hear people’s thoughts like her. Even though she now knows that hearing people’s thoughts was a gift of sorts, she still has not changed her mentality towards having children. Sookie also never really mentions being married as a big deal to her and having the white picket fence and all that jazz. One line I keep remembering in my head was how she would leave Bon Temps and all she knows to be with Eric. That is a HUGE tell in my book.
As much as it pains me to say, I think it will be Sam in the end as well. I’m a huge Eric lover, but from all the hints that have been dropped (1. Sookie will not be a vampire 2. She will live a normal lifespan and 3. the mods on Charlaine’s website downing the reality of a HEA Eric), I think it will end up being Sam. Personally, he’s at the bottom of my list. I know they’ve built a connection over the book series, but to me- there is no passion between the two of them. Sam and Sookie= boring in my opinion. So much of this series has focused on an Eric and Sookie relationship, so for the last book to completely switch over to another HEA sucks! I’m preparing for the worst (not even going to contemplate Bill- if he’s her HEA, I’m burning the series
, so if it is Eric in the end, I will be ECSTATIC!!!!!
Hi kmorris246! You know, I’ve heard your first two reasons why it might be Sam – that Sookie won’t be a vampire and she’ll live a normal human life span – and I understand why some see these as a roadblock to an Eric HEA.
I’ve also met many, many readers disillusioned by trips to the CH forum, or completely turned off from the SVM by their experiences there. What I can say for sure is that the mods (with the exception of CH’s continuity editor) are just fans like yourself, and are unlikely to know the outcome of the series at this point. They all have their favorite suitors and preferences for Sookie, and unless they sign their posts as a “moderator” of the site, they are posting their opinion. I wouldn’t read too much into what they say, and I certainly wouldn’t take any of it as gospel.
Thanks for your response krtmd! I had to laugh about your comment about getting turned off by the CH Forum. This has happened to me OH so many times
. I’ve never posted on that site, but I’m a frequent lurker, and I get so mad sometimes that I just have to leave the site and not come back for a few months. Just recently discovered this site, and love it- especially with all the Eric lovers
. Thanks for helping me keep my hope alive!
Happy to have you here kmorris246. There’s always room for another EL!
Well first of all Sookie not becoming a vampire is not that much of a big deal in the grand scheme of things, 2. We do not know how long Sookie will live but I bet it is longer than the average human, despite the fact that she is not a full fae. Remember that blessing that Niall did in DL, that has to mean something. I know CH said she would not live longer due to magical means but who knows what that blessing was and 3. I would not put too much stock into what the mods at CH’s site have to say as they just always seem to have their panties in a bunch for one, and two, they have no more idea what is going to happen than we do. In fact, half of the time I wonder if they have really paid any attention to the book series at all, given that they often read things that are not there in the text. That is the main reason I do not post there much because I am dying to school them.
No passion, boring, no time spent focusing on their relationship – these are the reasons I’m convinced Sam is a red herring. Also, as of the last book, Sookie is very much in love with Eric – he’s the one she wants. I have no idea how that relationship can be ended, giving Sookie adequate time to grieve, and another romantic relationship with Sam created (that Sookie hasn’t shown any interest in) in a satisfying way in the last few chapters of a very long Sookie & Eric centric series.
It will be interesting to see if CH gives Sookie a “vanilla” HEA because that is what Sam would be, after all that Eric and Sookie have gone through to be together. I’m going to bet that it’s not going to happen for Sam, but we won’t have too long to wait before the HEA is made clear.
CH keeps putting obstacles in the way of a Sookie/Eric HEA but then knocking them down (most recently the BB, FdC, Appius, Victor, the loss of the BB, the CD). Sookie has been saying (and thinking) for the past several books that she loves Eric.
DL showed that she desperately wants Eric to choose her over Freyda. I believe Sookie when she tells us who she loves and who she doesn’t. Do you really think Sookie will go from desperately loving Eric (and referring to herself as his “wife”) to feeling that way about Sam? Sookie will put up with all the bs that goes along with being with Eric because she loves him. She didn’t love Bill. She didn’t love Alcide or Quinn. She’s not “in love” with Sam. The last book, or the book before that, was the “perfect time” to turn Sam’s ship around and it just hasn’t happened.
P.S. This is a series about vampires, werewolves, shifters and telepaths so I think it’s tough to make it “realistic”, lol, but I do think the books are very smart and logic-driven for the most part.
*cough*Except for the the naked encounter with Bill in the cubby and I don’t know what she was thinking about there.*cough*
I doubt that CH has written 13 books to give a final “vanilla”. She has done very well in developing the Sookie’s story and her loooooong relationship with Eric (the more difficulties put in their way, I’m more sure that they will be together in their final UNCONVENTIONAL, and definitely NOT vanilla), congratulations to CH anyway for trying to install seeds of doubt, she knows how to mess with our minds. LOL.
I would have bought into Sam if she had given us a number of near misses over the past several books. She had plenty of opportunity when Sookie would be mad at Sam (or disappointed) and Sam was between women or disappointed by them.
The only way I see it working (from purely a writing standpoint) is to have the last book be from some future time with Sookie looking back at the end of her single days. I don’t see that happening with the synopsis out there and the fact that the last book is in Multiple View Points.
Of course all is possible, right? I just see it like this:
1. She only occasionally gets a wiff of what Eric thinks where she can’t conceive of being with a human and knowing what they think all the time. Were and shifters are like a bombardment of red or fuzzy images that don’t really make sense but are often emotional bombardments. I can’t imagine her staying around that if the guy is angry. Faeries are completely out with their deception and sexual ways. She had no attraction to Barry, the telepath.
2. She doesn’t want to be a vampire but she does, according to Niall, have the essential spark. What that is, we aren’t quite sure yet. She doesn’t even fully know her powers, let alone what that means. What we do know is that Faeries, even half faeries, live a very long time. I don’t think vampire is the only solution in a tale of magic. Two things have always made me wonder about this – Niall’s acceptance of her relationship with Eric when he cares about her and Eric’s silence on the subject. I think one or both of them would have brought that to a head by now if they didn’t know something that she does not. Remember that these two have been quite content to reveal things to her over time.
3. I think she may like the idea of marriage and kids, but I haven’t seen her really dwelling on this, agonizing over it or pushing it. I think a long time ago Sookie accepted that it wouldn’t happen for her with a human guy. She knows with a Were that the miscarriage rate is very high. She knows in Eric’s current state it isn’t possible. BUT, CH could easily fix this by taking out Remy or using magic. We don’t know what Amelia or the other witches could do if they wanted (bring Eric forward from his human past or send Sookie back to meet him after Aud and before death) or what Niall could do if he wanted (even Eric is in awe of him and says Faeries are very magical). Faeries fooled her grandmother to make children possible, remember? Do you think that was just thrown in there? They take the form of whoever they want. I’m just saying…it worked for Adele. Don’t put it past Niall.
As for the blood bond, Sookie wanted it broken to know for sure how she felt without any magical bond. She ran right in the house to pick up the phone when Eric called (as she knew he would). She realized she still loved him and wanted him. Eric told her there was a ceremony to break it and he should have offered it once he understood why she wanted it broken. I was fine with the way it went down. I understood why Sookie wanted it and why she thought Amelia could do it. I understood Amelia thinking it would make amends. I understood the disconnect between her and Eric. I also understood how it just served to make them work through their lack of communication over it. It might have abruptly come up but I was okay with it and the aftermath. I thought it made sense.
I have more trouble with other things. I could be okay with anyone except Bill even if I didn’t find it rather abrupt and out of left field. If it is Bill after he raped her and didn’t even acknowledge what he did to any satisfying degree, I won’t get the book. I completely will not be okay with that.
We’ll see come May.
Correction – I meant to say she had several opportunities when Sookie would be mad at Eric.
I’ve been thinking about it and I think Sookie will end up with Sam. I’m ambivalent about this so I don’t think I’m projecting my desired outcome or that it’s just because of the CD. My rationale is based on the series similarities to CH’s other series The Aurora Teagarden Mysteries, at leas in the romantic stakes. In a nutshell: Aurora (Sookie) meets Robin (Sam) early on the series and she could potentially start a relationship with him or Arthur (Bill). She ends up with Arthur until he does something unforgivable (think Bill’s litany of transgressions. Also, like Bill, Arthur later goes on to develop abit of an obsession with Aurora.) Then she moves onto Pastor Aubrey(Quinn) and after a brief affair, conflicting interests lead to a parting of ways (it’s interesting to note that the sterile Pastor ends up with ‘a ready made family’- a widow with a daughter and Quinn goes on to father a child with a rare tigress. Neat, convenient.) Enter Martin (Eric): a little older, morally questionable, sexy businessman. They marry and enjoy a satisfying marriage, if a little fraught with unusual issues (note: she gets told she cant concieve and indeed doesn’t throughout the entirety of their extremely sexually active time together.) Martin dies, after a respectable ammount of time Robin returns and they get the HEA she always wanted complete with surprise pregnancy.
Additionally, CH has always made sure to keep Sookie aware of Sam. Even Quinn acknowledges him though he can’t even be considered an ex. Unlike with Alcide, she only gains in respect for him and then there are the continued references to Sam’s double wide, flourishing garden and white picket fence. They’re sexually compatible even if they never got the chance to cover all the bases (I doubt I’ll ever forgive Bill for interrupting.) She trusts him in a way she never fully has with Eric (see Aurora and Martin)and she doesn’t like to decieve him. They both have disliked every partner the other has had (admittedly with good reason.) I think the only reason Sam didn’t make her equal partner is because their relationship hasn’t reached that. . .yet. To quote Damon Salvatore ‘It’s right, just not right now.’
And as Sookie pointed out, despite their love it just wouldn’t be practical for him not to wind up with Freyda. Magic or no magic, Sookie will be long dead and buried Eric still be reaping the benefits of his marriage to Freyda. I just don’t think Sookie/Eric are practical long term.
I’ve always wondered how CH’s other series worked out. You did a good analysis Eris. Well thought out. I’d find it kind of blah after everything, but your analysis is solid. We’ll see what she does. Thank you
Oh shit! I just spoiled it for you! -smacks head-I think I got carried away with my desire to share with fellow SS fans. Sorry!
I’m on the fence about all of Sookie’s suitors (except for Bill. His possesive/obsessive ass needs to let it go. And probably Quinn- I think that’s over. Alcide doesn’t count. OK, maybe not so much on the fence.)But I honestly think Eric is really underused. It’s as though CH is like Appius and is afraid to give free reign to ‘so vital a being.’
That is an interesting comparison with Aurora but I think we need to compare the other CH works as well. I think Eric is most like Lily Bard’s husband. Lily thinks he’s extremely dodgy to begin with and I just knew he would be the guy for her. Their relationship is very like S/E in that they get together before the end, their relationship isn’t perfect and he is absent from the page quite a lot. There is also a guy in those books who is close to Lily – a policeman – who is in the books before Lily’s future husband but he never becomes any more than a friend. Lily and her husband don’t have a child. If we quickly look at Harper Connelly, I think that is probably different again as it is obvious all the way through who Harper will be with, it’s just a matter of waiting for it to happen (I don’t see Sam or Eric in her chosen partner particularly). A couple of other quick points. I think Lily is most like Sookie out of CH other protagonists. Lily and her husband have featured in the SSN. I believe the Lily and Harper stories are definitely finished so CH is happy with those endings but she has said she would write more Aurora if she got the chance so there may be more developments there. And Eric will definitely NOT die, CH is not silly enough to kill the cash cow.
The dynamics in Lily and Harper are quite alike the SVM ones.
Aurora is her first and oldest series and CH admitted she did regret she let her readers think Aurora and Martin were the end game that’s why she promised to never do that in another of her series and to not spend time building up a character she knew wasn’t meant to be.
And shall we not forget CH quote “Sookie and Eric are the only two safe survivors” (and she knew the end when she stated this)
I’m glad she regretted it. I never really warmed up to Robin.
Oh no! I don’t think Eric will die. Aside from the similar experiences of abuse and despite Sookie’s references to their sharing a mindset regarding what people are capable of, I think Sookie is much more conventional than Lily. Maybe not quite as convential as Aurora but closer- especially in the things she professes to value (even after Lochlan and Neave). Even this late in the series she hasn’t managed to completely let go of her christian moral views (her response to Sam’s question about whether she’d leave Claude alone with Hunter, her feelings about Victor’s death, her appreciation of Sam’s house pride, her remaining traces of naivete- her shock at Claude’s betrayal. . .) As for Harper- she’s in another category altogether.
I’d love another Aurora. I was sure bummed out by Martin’s death and it rocked my trust in CH (blasphemy, I know) so that’s why I made the comparison. What similarities do you see between Sookie and Lily?
This is a very interesting dialogue because it seems that CH tends to change her romance model somewhat depending on the characters. It’s good that she’s not so formulaic.
I really like Sam, but I just don’t see them together. Sam is always with women who have an edge and a lot of them are outright aggressive. Sookie isn’t like that at all. Sookie herself seems very drawn to men with a dark side (although she does like redeemable qualities). I’m also not convinced the kid thing is a clincher. She talks about what she thought her life would be like but she sure doesn’t seem to agonize over the fact that her choices won’t pan out that way. She strikes me as way too conventional and old fashioned to date guys she doesn’t think she might end up with forever. She’s kind of an all in girl. She says as much to Eric when he asks her if she is going to date other guys while she’s with him.
There’s something we haven’t really thought about. What if the silence from the vampires and the devastating news has to do with Eric refusing Freyda and being punished for it. How bad would Sookie feel if Eric was locked up to go before the tribunal for refusing his maker’s contract to a queen no less. I’ve always thought Sookie was unbelievably niave about the severity of Eric doing something like that. If SA was so afraid of Peter finding out she lost the bracelet, what the heck does Sookie think Freyda would do to Eric if he just said no? Does she really think they won’t just stake him unless Felipe is behind him? That’s just niave at this point.
I think Eric’s silence and Sookie’s devastation at finding out the reason might be related to punishment too… But for killing Victor, not refusing Freyda.
There have been lots of reminders in the narrative in DL that FDC still considers this a matter outstanding. It’s CH’s style that when something is vaguely alluded to more than once, it’s probably going to be a future plot point. There have been lots of examples of this through the series.
YEP.
The fact that so few people are talking about Felipe’s part in all of this, proves that CH is afterall pretty good at misdirection.
That’s actually the thing that interests me most, just WHAT is Felipe’s deal?
It’s the Eric/Sookie long term that is such a stumbling block for me. I know her HEA is going to be unconventional and I can deal with Sookie not getting the typical family/life that she originally fantasised about. As far as children goes she has Hunter and now Sara Sookie and Robert Thornton du Rone. And who knows? Jason might make her an aunt. Her lifestyle might be considered to dangerous to have children of her own and I don’t think there is any chance of her backing out of it now. She won’t be able to and to be honest after everything and all the time CH has put into making Sookie tougher and wiser and immersing her in the supe world (I mean she’s got a finger in every pie- vamps, twoeys, witches, fae. . . she’s even pretty good with humans.) The horror has not impacted her the way it did Tara. And I found it hard to miss that ‘Honestly, it was like being the equivalent of being insulted by a pork chop my boyfriend was eating.’ line in DL. So callous Sookie, so desensitised. And then when she killed that ‘twisty bastard’? There was no sign whatsoever of the deadweight of guilt after her killing of Debbie Pelt. It was all business.)She’s sunk in it and managed to find a place in it without letting it destroy her. But I digress. . .
She’s in a good place with Jason, her nephew and her fae relatives. She’s financially secure. In addition to personal growth, she has progressed on a work level (from waitress to part-owner) and she’s not even thirty yet. But all of Charlaine’s series are fixated on death and time passing- from Sookie to her comment about Jason getting crows feet, Aurora with her great southern river of life, Lily with her buried alive dreams and I don’t even want to mention Harper- it’ll never end if I get going. So how the hell are Sookie and Eric going to be in a relationship long-term? She’s not going to be a vampire and even a longer life-span (she’s only what? 1/8th fairy?) thats not going to stop ageing. There’s not going to be magic. So unless Eric will be human again I can’t see it and I don’t imagine ‘the perfect vampire’ who is so brimming with ‘joie de vivre’ would appreciate that turn of events. So what? The series ends on a note where all their short term obstacles are defeated and is left open ended or Sookie and Eric are together, her getting older, until it dissolves into companionship and she dies? I hear shared old age is like that but for Eirc and Sookie the thought leaves a foul taste in my mouth.
I really fail to see what’s so foul about an ending like that.
Of course Sookie will ultimately age and die, that’s the reality of existence. Doesn’t mean life can’t be happy and fullfilling all the same.
I actually would resent a “full-on” fairytale ending where everybody is magically young and immortal and there’s no obstacle whatsoever left, because it would feel emotionally false.
And I would like it even less if the inherent difference between Sookie and Eric were just eliminated,because the whole point of the series is about learning to see the similarities beyond that, and to make things work despite flaws and outward incompatibilities.
That Sookie and Eric can be together and happy for as long as it’s made possible by their circumstances, and despite being a vampire and a human/fairy, well THAT would be uplifting and satìsfying, not a magical fix or, even worse, a “lets settle for the safe option” deal.
I just don’t think Eric cares that much about that stuff. He may be full of life, and have a lively chemistry, but he’s not shallow. I know he finds Sookie physically attractive, but that can’t be all he loves about her, right? If beauty were all he wanted, then Freyda certainly fits the bill. When Sookie is mutilated by the fairies, it isn’t her physical state that worries Eric – he’s proud of her because her heart and her personality have survived intact. That tells me that what he values about Sookie isn’t what she looks like on the outside.
In his thousand years of existence, certainly Eric has seen the human aging process play out more than once. I just don’t think it’s a big deal for *him*. I do think it’s a hurdle for Sookie to cross, and like any human, she’ll have moments where it’ll be hard for her.
At any rate, I don’t think we’ll see it play out in the books, Eric and Sookie HEA or not. We shall see.
I have a hard time understanding why anyone would be turned off by the idea of human Sookie finding her HEA with vampire Eric. Sounds perfectly perfect to me.
I think for some people the areas of the books where Sookie speaks to her friends and acquaintances getting married and having babies translate to those things being necessary for her hea. For me, these are like the fantasy that Sookie has been raised to believe are necessary but which she herself has realized will never be for her long before the books begin. She’s said as much, if not more, about the fact that she can’t even date human men. I think it’s easy to forget that when the books begin Sookie doesn’t believe she’ll have any type of hea. She believes she will spend her life as an alien observer on the outside looking in on human life.
When Sookie met the supes, she finally found a group with which she felt more at home. She then, by her actions, made it abundantly clear that the supes she feels most comfortable with are vampires – because they are silent (with the exception of a few blips from Eric). The twoeys she always describes as tangled, snarly or red. Our problem as readers is that we aren’t satisfied with that for Sookie. I believe, by what she says, that this is a very big deal to her and much more of a hea than she ever felt possible.
Then there is the fact that I don’t read anything in what Sookie says that would lead me to believe she is approaching her relationships as casual dating. I think she’s thought this out more than she’ll admit to herself or than we give her credit for doing.
Finally, let’s logically look at the hypothetical future of Sookie with human kids whose minds she can read. Human children – Should she shut their thoughts out entirely so she isn’t blasted with every hateful or terrible thought they have or should she open herself up in case there is ever a pervert or bully out there who will hurt them? Imagine how torturous either would be for her. If she ends up with a twoey, the kids will be human and there she will be. If she has a Hunter, there are no secrets for her or the kid. Does any parent want to be that much of an open book to a child? Does any child want to be that open to their parents? I can’t see that either and frankly, I think all of this and more has crossed Sookie’s mind.
I think we are all guilty of trying to imprint our needs onto Sookie when all she really wants is to be able to live in the world in peace and make some kind of connection. If she gets that, I think she will have her hea.
I just love everyones opinion on this site.
CH is a great mystery writer….she sure has us all stirred up, waiting for the last book.
I have all of the Sookie audio books on my i-pod, so I listen to them as I walk everyday. I think CH has planted a few bombs in garden of Dead Locked.
!. Jannalynn’s confession at the time of her pack judgment. Jannalynn tells Ambroselli “I killed Kim Rowe. I came up on her when she was leaving Eric Northman’s house, I snapped her neck. I’m a werewolf. We’re pretty strong.” When asked why’d you do that? Jannalynn had to make up a story not to implicate the pack, but she sure as hell didn’t tell the truth about why she did it.
(Bomb 1…where was bill?)
No way bill wouldn’t have smelled a full (Jannalynn) were, and part-were (Kym) with fairy blood, or seen what went on in the FRONT YARD of Eric’s house? In bill’s own words, “I’m stuck out here on guard duty. I’m not allowed inside. I can’t protect you.” bill knew what was going down that night that’s why he wanted Sookie to go home. I also found it interesting that when bill came into Eric’s house to announce “There’s a dead girl on the front lawn, and the police are here.” bill goes on to say. “I never heard a scream or any other alarm. So I don’t know why a neighbor would have called…but someone did.”
The next thing Eric says to bill is:
“You wouldn’t have summoned the police yourself, for any reason?” Eric said, and there was the smell of danger in the room.
(Eric is aware of bill’s betrayal?)
FDC has just told Horst how many people that Sookie has killed and to not let her looks deceive him. Where did FDC get all his information from? Why bill of course. Who else would know so much about Sookie and who she’s killed? bill the bastard is working with FDC. After all bill was willing to betray Sookie to Queen Sophie-Ann, so he’d have no problem with another royal if he gets what he want out of the deal.
Every time bill calls Sookie sweetheart, I want Eric to stake the bastard. Or Sookie!
If CH makes Bill the mastermind villian behind a lot of this, I would completely buy it. There are times I wonder if he didn’t contact Appius himeself and suggest the alliance with QOK. After all, someone tipped off Appius that Eric had Sookie. I still don’t buy that FdC had or has anything to do with that. He doesn’t gain at all from what’s happened and without Victor he needs Eric to hold on to what he has. He’s in a very vulnerable state. Bill, on the other hand, wants Eric out of the picture so Sookie will come back to him. If Bill did set up the whole twisted plot with Appius, he may not have realized how messed up Alexi would be or how that would end. Once Appius was dead and Eric was trying to have the contact nullified, he went on to plan two – set Eric up for an embarassing murder that exposed the inside of Vampire politics (FdC as guest). If Eric would have been arrested for such an embarassing murder while the vampires are trying to get rights in the US, the vampires would have for sure staked him. I don’t believe Bill is conspiring with FdC at all because FdC has nothing at all to gain by Eric leaving. With Victor gone, Eric is the only thing FdC really has left. He’s very vulnerable right now and look what he did to SA when she was in a vulnerable position. I think that is why he hasn’t left Eric alone with Freyda. What I do think is that if you are right, it is Freyda with whom Bill is working. If Bill tells Freyda that he can get her Eric and that he and Sookie will come along, she has just gained the majority of FdC’s power base. She is then positioned to take a big chunk of the country. From her point of view, she has a lot to gain.
correction – contract, not contact
I should have added that it makes all the sense in the world that Bill is the one who told Freyda to come to LA and put the pressure on to get Eric. Why did she suddenly show up? Why is she staying? Why was it Bubba that showed up when QOK was at Sookie’s? Why is it always Bill whispering in Sookie’s ear (like an Iago)that Eric will leave her for QOK because he’s so power hungry? (And this hunger for power is not shown in the books which is Sookie’s account even though she doesn’t make that connection.) Doesn’t it make sense that Bill and Freyda are conspiring together to destroy Sookie’s confidence in Eric and make her leave him? At that point, what stops Eric from giving in because he no longer has Sookie anyway and doesn’t that mean that QOK gets everything, including probably FdC’s holdings once she stages a takeover?
I so agree Hootie that Bill calling Sookie sweetheart makes me want him staked (or Sookie for continuing to have a soft spot for this slimeball). When I reread the books the first time, I saw a lot of evidence by book 2 that he is just not a nice guy. Geez, even the way he would say, “You smell like…” made my skin crawl. He was always so disdainful to her. I compare that to later when Eric teases her that she reeks of fairies and weres. I think he says, “What have you been up to my Sookie?” That’s not verbatim but it’s something to that effect. He doesn’t come across as threatening at all. He just seems amused. There’s also the time that Hunter is staying with her when he says, “Your house is full of men.” She never describes these interactions as something said in a cold voice. The few times she worries about how he will react is when she thinks he will react the way Bill did. Bill would even make remarks about her smelling like other men when those men were protecting her! He does that in DID when he shows up at the orgy. It always makes me think he’s like a dog marking his territory and getting mad if another dog marks it. It really sits badly with me.
And let’s not get into the whole thing with her not being able to pay her bills or worrying about how to survive while he’s shucking out money to relatives that detest him. Or that the one thing he offers her is clothing and lingerie so he can rip at will. Sookie herself says it makes her feel like a kept woman. That’s another time he just made my skin crawl. It was so different from Eric taking care of her driveway because she was so upset about it and never bringing it up or holding it over her. And so different for him asking if she needed anything and telling her that he will not having her going without. Or even as AE saying he will get a job and that he can be of help to her. Somehow the way Bill finally does it makes it offensive.
I’m always surprised by it because CH does write him well at first. I really liked the vampire who had been a Southern gentleman and was so courtly and polite. It made it that much more upsetting when it turned out he was a complete fraud.
And let’s not get into the rape with not even one true apology or any remorse. How Sookie can even look at him is beyond me. She makes so much out of Gabe almost raping her and her fear of the orgy but then acts like what Bill did is no big deal. Earlier when Bill upsets her she says she doesn’t expect him to apologize but that it would be nice. She’s obviously in a snit about it. I can’t believe how easily she lets him off the hook for what he does to her. I’ve always wanted her to tell Eric that whole story and let him rip Bill apart. Even Bubba would do that if he knew. He certainly wouldn’t be liking Bill so much if he knew that. Sookie just reminds me of an abused girlfriend who lies to everyone including herself. What I don’t understand about that is that now she is treated better by someone who can easily protect her from Bill and yet she still defends him. I guess she just can’t face the truth that she loved a dirtbag.
Sigh
We can only hope that CH does make Bill the arch villian in the end. I think it would be absolutely great and explain why he’s been hanging around since book 3.
Hi Zanne.
Yes I agree Sookie’s weakness is her attitude and trust in bill. (sorry I don’t capitalize that rat bastards name..distain is too mild a word) My dislike of bill began in book 1, when he let Liam, Diane and Malcombe frighten Sookie when she stopped by to give him names of contractors. I could never get past the fact that he was going to feed in front of her on the guy with sino-aids, plus that he saw nothing wrong with the sex acts those vamps were performing in front of Sookie. I’m a southern woman myself and that was way beyond what could be called a “southern gentleman”. That’s a sick bastard, no wonder Sookie fainted. Also a gentleman does not keep a lady waiting in a bar parking lot! (Ratray’s attack)
My daughter got me the i-pod and downloaded Charlaine’s books for me.
I almost didn’t read the rest of the books, because it’s hard to dislike the romantic interest the main character (Sookie) has. When I told my daughter I didn’t like bill, she laughed and said “Keep reading.”
Glad I did!
I don’t necessarily believe that bill is working with FDC, but I do believe he’s feeding information about Sookie where it serves his agenda to both royals. Like where did Jonathan learn about the Bellefleur wedding Sookie would be working at? Surely that event was invitation only? (bill had one) Only someone local would have that information, (bill) especially since the original bar tender had a car wreck on the way to the wedding? I do believe Niall was there to watch over Sookie and most likely knows what a twisty bastard bill is.
Or Felipe’s information on Victor’s final death? How many sup’s Sookie has killed?
bill working with Freyda? It makes sense, but I think she’s also just a piece of the game bill is playing to get Eric out of the way. In Deadlocked bill told Sookie his agenda. HE WANTS TO TURN HER, be Sookie’s MAKER, have complete CONTROL over her. I think FDC and QOK are just by products of bill’s main plan. That he wants Sookie to be his willing child would be a smarter plan for him. That’s why he’s been such a busy bee trying to discredit Eric in every way he can. Making Sookie doubt herself or Eric’s love. bill’s plan is to strike when Sookie is most vulnerable. Also keep in mind that bill could easily loose Sookie to Felipe. (older more politically powerful than bill, his best way to keep her is to turn her,)
However in the last book there have been little hints that Sookie is showing signs of distrust of bill, at least in her mind.
In one of the other posts about our speculations of what will happen in the next book. I think bill will kill Sam. The vamps will know it and keep silent, it will be blamed on Sookie. I think bill will go into a killing rage when he hears that Sookie saved Sam’s life with the CD (a fae love token) seeing Sam as a serious rival.
How will Eric get out of QOK marriage? I’m not sure, but I think it’s going to be something simple. (CH always makes things much simpler than we expect)… Eric has told Sookie over and over again what a good “friend” Pam is to her, much more than you know.
Pam has secrets. She knows Eric does not want to be King, he wants Sookie and she is his weakness, I think Pam will step into to QOK because she loves Sookie and Eric and wants them happy.
Yeah, I’ve alway seen bill as the arch villain. He’s always creeped me out. (bill does rape very well, both physical and emotionally) I’ve never understood how anyone could like bill, much less all the bill love that goes on???
Maybe both Eric and Sookie can steak him, like they did in the Charlie brown short story….Hahahaha!
I love this. WE HAD THE VERY SAME THING IN MIND.
The fact that if Eric leaves with Freyda. Sookie. Will be like a free goody bag for Felipe. And as a very devious vampire, Eric knows that.
One thing Im wondering till now.
are the HELLHOUNDS after Mr. Cataliades which is after Sookie’s cluviel dor. i wonder whose are those hellhounds.
One more thing. If Karin will be back… I think she is like the key to one of Sookie and Eric’s problems…
Im kinda sad for Sookie. She dealt with a hard life. She was meant to be surrounded by supes with her telepathic powers and fairy blood. She was born to get in a hip of trouble. And its time for her to have her happy ending now WITH ERICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC <3 <3.
Just thank you. I completely see everything coming full circle back to DTTW. Other than a major lack of Eric page time (hugely disappointing and I wholeheartedly hope this will be made up to us in DL), I really liked Deadlocked mostly because of all of the parallels and little references to DTTW that were scattered throughout. While I imagine the HEA may not be as neat and tidy as some of us may like, there is absolutely no way I could buy anything other than Eric and Sookie after all they have been through, how they have grown together, how alike they are, and all the subtext that so clearly points to them being made for each other.
Eric was truly her first love, not Bill – nothing about Bill was ever comparable – nor were any of the other suitors. None of them have loved her and gotten her like Eric has, on a gut and basic level he has always been her ‘more’.
“You are beautiful.” No one had ever looked me in the eyes and said that. I found I had to lower my head.
“You are smart, and you are loyal,” he said relentlessly, though I waved a hand to ask him to quit.
“You have a sense of fun and adventure.”
“Cut it out,” I said.
“Make me,” he said. “You have the most beautiful breasts I’ve ever seen. You’re brave.” I put my fingers across his mouth, and his tongue darted out to give them a quick lick. I relaxed against him, feeling the tingle down to my toes.
“You’re responsible and hardworking,” he continued. Before he could tell me that I was good about replacing the garbage can liner when I took the garbage out, I replaced my fingers with my lips.
“There,” he said softly, after a long moment. “You’re creative too.”
“You are beautiful.” No one had ever looked me in the eyes and said that. I found I had to lower my head.
“You are smart, and you are loyal,” he said relentlessly, though I waved a hand to ask him to quit.
“You have a sense of fun and adventure.”
“Cut it out,” I said.
“Make me,” he said. “You have the most beautiful breasts I’ve ever seen. You’re brave.” I put my fingers across his mouth, and his tongue darted out to give them a quick lick. I relaxed against him, feeling the tingle down to my toes.
“You’re responsible and hardworking,” he continued. Before he could tell me that I was good about replacing the garbage can liner when I took the garbage out, I replaced my fingers with my lips.
“There,” he said softly, after a long moment. “You’re creative too.”
I always go back to this part of the book because to me, this is what solidifies what I knew from Book 2 onward – that Eric cares for Sookie for more than her looks. He does think she is beautiful, he’s very clear about that, but, just as important for him are her other qualities – she’s smart, loyal, brave, responsible, hardworking, fun, adventurous and creative.
To me, this comes up later on at Fangtasia where he tells her about his wife, Aud, and he says something to the effect that she was not a silly woman. It was always clear to me that despite what Sookie herself thought (beause of her insecurity) and what others told her, Eric was always looking for a woman who was “more.” Sookie is his more, just like he is her more.
Me, too, Zanne! I love that passage. From the first moment they met I have never felt Eric cared about her just for her looks per se – but it is such an intimate scene and he has so clearly thought about it and appreciated so many facets of Sookie, you can tell this is something that runs even deeper than it had appeared up until this point. I don’t think any of the other suitors have ever fully appreciated Sookie for who she is – have even thought about who Sookie is in that way – the way Eric has. I also loved that that talk in Fangtasia – for as great as their physical chemistry is, what makes them so incredible is their connection with each other on every level. I hope we get more of that in this last book…those little moments when they connect are what make the series for me!
in addition to what you’ve posted: in Club Dead when the weres talk bad to Sookie, Eric admonishes them : “You are talking to my future lover, show some respect”… So we can see that not only he likes her for her physical assets, but he believes that Sookie is respect-worthy. For me is like a foretaste of the promise he makes before going to fight the witches. Seeing that Eric really appreciated Sookie for what she is, not for the telepathy nor for her looks, I truly believe that their relationship will surpass the obstacles that occurred in the last books.
It is a theme that follows through over and over again. Later one it keeps appearing that he is “proud” of her and not for her looks, but her actions. It is very clear that he holds Sookie in very high regard.
He also makes it clear many times that he will not allow anyone to disrespect her.
Ihave a great deal of time today going back reading many great past SVB posts, but FUUUUUCCKKKKKKKK, this one had me out right bawling.
Why, CH , why?
SPOILER ALERT!!! Finished last book. Must say I thought these last two books, when CH obviously had a game plan with loose ends to tie up, were her most readable in a while. Clear, straightforward and concise. So ended just like I predicted it would. Sorry to the Eric fans but obviously there was no way to make that relationship work for the long term. On to the next series. Anyone have any suggestions?
How is that a spoiler when you gave nothing away. I am glad you liked it but I thought it was shit. There was nothing, clear,straightforward or concise about it. There was no plot to speak of and the supposed loose ends were much ado about nothing for they were already water under the bridge.I have a suggestion,no more books by CH.
Wow,okay but I do think there was a plot, i.e. who was going after Sookie. Spoiler was that Eric and Sookie didn’t end up together–which I believe from an earlier post of yours you thought had a clear chance of happening. Obviously you are upset by the ending as you could tell CH’s mods a thing or two about the books, “dying to school them” but don’t take it out on CH.